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Old 06-22-2015, 02:02 PM   #421
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Steinberg says he is hearing that Monahan's camp wants a long term deal for his next contract.

Thinks the Flames will counter with a 3 or 4 year deal.
If he has another strong season next year, then I see no reason why we shouldn't lock him up for 6 to 8 years. It's what pretty much all young star players have come to expect now.

If they don't want a long term deal and just want one that brings him to his last RFA year, the demands might end up being even higher.

As a side note, with Backlund, Monahan and Bennett as our top 3 centres, and with a couple others in the system that need to move up or move on, I can't help but think Stajan will be the odd man out at this point. I think he increased his profile as a player that can bring a veteran presence to a rebuilding team.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:08 PM   #422
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Several teams have shown interest in Sharp. Hawks haven't gotten far yet with anybody. Preliminary talks only so far.

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My sense is that the Blackhawks are trying first to establish the firm market and then decide how they're going to proceed.

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Caps are among the teams that have spoken to the Hawks but again, all very preliminary at this point
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:41 PM   #423
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The look on Sea Bass's face would be priceless.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:42 PM   #424
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I wonder if Loui Eriksson is available, and if so, what the cost would be?

He'd be a nice add IMO. Will be 30 by the time the season starts, and is a pending UFA....but he's got good speed, is an excellent two way player, and is a lock to put up 20+ goals (if healthy). I bet he'd light it up on a line with Johnny.


Gaudreau - Monahan - Eriksson
M Ferland - Bennett - Hudler (Huds mentors a couple young guys again)
L Bouma - Backlund - Jones/Colborne

Solid top 9 there.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:45 PM   #425
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@TheHockeyChat: BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp trade:

Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick + Bennett + Kapanen

Never heard of this account before so take this with a grain of salt. Seems like a pretty big overpayment in my opinion
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Would be 3 first round picks.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:52 PM   #427
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@TheHockeyChat: BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp trade:

Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick + Bennett + Kapanen

Never heard of this account before so take this with a grain of salt. Seems like a pretty big overpayment in my opinion
Sounds like garbage. That's a massive, massive overpayment from Pittsburgh.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:54 PM   #428
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Kapanen makes that offer over the top. B. Bennett and 2016 1st would be enough.
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looks like chicago is gonna be good for many years more if that happens
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That offer would make sense if it was Seabrook being dealt.
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To be fair, Beau Bennett breaks down often. Kid has had the unfortunate luck of being Havlat like in his injury history. He's played on average 60 games a year in the last 3 years. Worse than Backlund. Essentially it's Kapanen (not a great season last season no?) , a contract and a 1st.
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What happens when he is 29/30 and still in his prime for a few more years? He's going to ask for the world. I'd rather bridge him the 2-3 years, and then go the full 8 so that we buy those years from him.
If he is in a position, after 8 years, to be asking for the moon, then the Flames have done very, very well over those 8 years.

That would be the best case scenario.

And if the Flames thought the was asking too much? He would be a 30 year old and would likely garner a considerable bounty in trade.
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laughable.

Hudler and the 15th wouldn't get you either the 4th or Kessel, let alone both of them.

Kessel should fetch the leafs a 1st round pick, a player, and a prospect.

No team is moving a top five pick without a top 10 coming back and an elite/A-list prospect or an established star who is younger than 25 (remember the Seguin to the flames for Gaudreau and Monahan....yeah, kinda like that). The 4th overall pick is the most valuable asset the leafs have right now along with Morgan Reilly, and you think they're going to trade that for Hudler and a mid-round 1st? HA! that's good stuff man! Keep it up!! You should share that with HF Boards, or better yet you should email these jems to Trelivng and Burke. they would love the 'advice'.

I'm sure the leafs will be falling all over themselves to get their hands on a guy who has one 70 pt season under his belt and one year left on his contract plus a mid-round first, who is likely 3-5 years away from making any impact at the NHL level (and that's if he pans out).

Seems that there is a desperation to get Kessel out of Toronto and it doesn't seem like there are too many teams that are looking to take on salary for a player that is as inconsistent as Kessel. Hudler has shown over the past 2 years that he is a top tier player in this league. I wouldn't make that trade 1 for 1 as Kessel is a massive question mark with his play and attitude. Once the Leafs realize that they aren't going to get what they want for him then it will depend on how much they want to get rid of him in terms of what they are going to get.

I'm not exactly sure what kind of player, 1st and prospect you think a team is giving up but I think you are going to be highly let down in the end.
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Me neither if I were the Flames. But that is what the Leafs would ask for.

Bottom line, there is no deal here between the two clubs. What the Leafs want and will get, is not commiserate with what the Flames are prepared to give up.

Only point I'm making here is the 4th+Kessel for 15th+Hudler is one of the worst trade proposals I've seen in a while. Truly, Flames fans should be calling out there own on this garbage.

Again, Hudler+15th isn't even close to getting you 4th overall. admit it.
I wouldn't trade Hudler for Kessel, swapping draft picks is for the fact that the Flames take on an absolutely horrible contract.

Again, good luck.
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B. Bennett and 2016 1st would be enough.
Pitt's discussions with Bennett on a contract not going great from sounds of it.
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Ha. What leverage does Beau Bennett have? Like I said earlier the poor guy is made of glass. Yes he is 23 and with any luck a healthy season puts him into great young player status. But he's got nothing to go on right now other than selling his potential and some rainbows wrapping canned unicorn meat (with more sparkles!).
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@TheHockeyChat: BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp trade:

Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick + Bennett + Kapanen

Never heard of this account before so take this with a grain of salt. Seems like a pretty big overpayment in my opinion
Eklund type account, not credible at all from what I know.
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Seems that there is a desperation to get Kessel out of Toronto and it doesn't seem like there are too many teams that are looking to take on salary for a player that is as inconsistent as Kessel. Hudler has shown over the past 2 years that he is a top tier player in this league. I wouldn't make that trade 1 for 1 as Kessel is a massive question mark with his play and attitude. Once the Leafs realize that they aren't going to get what they want for him then it will depend on how much they want to get rid of him in terms of what they are going to get.

I'm not exactly sure what kind of player, 1st and prospect you think a team is giving up but I think you are going to be highly let down in the end.
He was top 10 scoring this year, but was 70th last year in a comparable amount of games. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

But you don't trade Hudler for Kessel for a myriad of other reasons.
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Wouldn't this be considered tampering if this actually leaked from the Oilers staff somewhere? It is probably OK to discuss internally but as soon as it gets public it becomes tampering to talk about other teams players, or am I understanding that incorrectly.
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Wouldn't this be considered tampering if this actually leaked from the Oilers staff somewhere? It is probably OK to discuss internally but as soon as it gets public it becomes tampering to talk about other teams players, or am I understanding that incorrectly.
Not saying it is or isn't as I don't know...

But would the NHL attempt to press Lebrun for his source? Cause I am sure he wouldn't give it up lightly.
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