2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don't assume Edmonton will be at the bottom. Adding McDavid and Maclellen are already huge additions to a team that has fire power.Today they have holes but I could see some of them getting filled through trade. I could see them leap frogging the Canucks who I think will be a bad team.

I am not a big advanced stats guy but at the end of the day the Flames had the second highest shooting % in the league and if that fails to duicate itself goals may be harder to come by.

It looks like Ramo is gone the question remains to be seen if Ortio can offer the same quality starts we got from Ramo last year. I am not saying the Flames have no chance if they stand pat and do very little (say sign a UFA forward and Dman) but it will be harder to get in next year unless they have similar puck luck

I read this all the time and yet no stats ever prove this to be true. The Oilers have finished no higher than 18th in the league in goal scoring in the last 5 seasons, and that was the lockout season where half their team played in the minors for the first half the season. Even increasing their goal scoring does not help them lower the crappy goals against record in the last 5 seasons either.

They DO NOT have fire power at all, and considering none of their young "offensive" players play any defence, until they prove they have fire power I for one will continue to dispute this fact.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Steinberg says he is hearing that Monahan's camp wants a long term deal for his next contract.

Thinks the Flames will counter with a 3 or 4 year deal.

I'm all for giving him 6+ years we likely get a deal on him if that's the case.

[Benched]

don't care if we lock up MoneyHands for long term

[Fire]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Joel Ward wants 4 years:


Alex Prewitt @alex_prewitt
Sounding more and more likely Joel Ward hits unrestricted free agency on July 1. Searching for four years. GMBM's spoken about the term gap.

I like Joel Ward, but he's already 34. If we are thinking the Flames won't be true contenders are at least 3 more years, then he'll most likely be over the hill by that point.

[codynw]

Yep, the sooner Monahan gets a long term deal the better IMO. He'll be cheaper that way, if you give him a bridge deal he'll want more money at the end of it (like Subban).

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Steinberg says he is hearing that Monahan's camp wants a long term deal for his next contract.

Thinks the Flames will counter with a 3 or 4 year deal.

A 4 year deal takes him straight to UFA.... I really wouldn't like that at all.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by codynw

Would not trade a single one of those players for Kessel.

Me neither if I were the Flames. But that is what the Leafs would ask for.

Bottom line, there is no deal here between the two clubs. What the Leafs want and will get, is not commiserate with what the Flames are prepared to give up.

Only point I'm making here is the 4th+Kessel for 15th+Hudler is one of the worst trade proposals I've seen in a while. Truly, Flames fans should be calling out there own on this garbage.

Again, Hudler+15th isn't even close to getting you 4th overall. admit it.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Yeah, do a three year bridge contract so he's still a RFA when it's up or go all in and lock him up.

Monahan is one of the guys it's okay to go all in for. At 20 he's a core player now and nothing to believe he won't be for years to come. He's one of the building blocks.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Steinberg says he is hearing that Monahan's camp wants a long term deal for his next contract.

Thinks the Flames will counter with a 3 or 4 year deal.

I wonder if they are looking at offering some kind of Bridge-Deal to offset costs of acquiring a short term UFA or player with high salary via trade.

I.E. Pay Monahan 5.5 for 2 or 3, acquire big ticket player making roughly the same. Then, wait for that to expire before giving Monahan/Gaudrea the big Toews dollars.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I'd like it if management did a 2 year deal and then went the big 8.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

A 4 year deal takes him straight to UFA.... I really wouldn't like that at all.

Just think about the inevitable "Monahan is going to sign with the Leafs!" talk that would go on for the entire life of that contract.

[dammage79]

Go the full 8 on Monahan, Don't fuss about with it. The cap space everyone is vehemently saying to save for the Flames big boys and now you want to gyp your #1 C on a two to four year deal? Go the eight year term and go 6 m a season. the last 4 years of that deal will be mega savings. cripes, the last 6 years of that contract will be mega savings.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Go the full 8 on Monahan, Don't fuss about with it. The cap space everyone is vehemently saying to save for the Flames big boys and now you want to gyp your #1 C on a two to four year deal? Go the eight year term and go 6 m a season. the last 4 years of that deal will be mega savings. cripes, the last 6 years of that contract will be mega savings.

What happens when he is 29/30 and still in his prime for a few more years? He's going to ask for the world. I'd rather bridge him the 2-3 years, and then go the full 8 so that we buy those years from him.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

I read this all the time and yet no stats ever prove this to be true. The Oilers have finished no higher than 18th in the league in goal scoring in the last 5 seasons, and that was the lockout season where half their team played in the minors for the first half the season. Even increasing their goal scoring does not help them lower the crappy goals against record in the last 5 seasons either.

They DO NOT have fire power at all, and considering none of their young "offensive" players play any defence, until they prove they have fire power I for one will continue to dispute this fact.

Agreed all around, and to add to this. The backbone of a good offense is an active, quick defense. The Oilers let Petry go so they can give more ice time to... Schultz? Nikitin? Ference? Ahhhhahahahahahaha

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

What happens when he is 29/30 and still in his prime for a few more years? He's going to ask for the world. I'd rather bridge him the 2-3 years, and then go the full 8 so that we buy those years from him.

It's definitely going to be a tricky contract. On one hand a bridge contract will help you get years later on. On the other hand you could get "Subbaned" and end up paying through your teeth after the bridge contract is up.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Steinberg says he is hearing that Monahan's camp wants a long term deal for his next contract.

Thinks the Flames will counter with a 3 or 4 year deal.

If Monahan really wants a 8 year deal, I say give it to him. The contract would cover his best years as a player in the NHL. Obviously it would depend on the money he would demand. I hate to copy the Oilers but I could definitely live with 8 years x $6 million.

[sureLoss]

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
LeBrun: I'm not sure they will, but #Oilers have had internal discussions about offer-sheeting Hamilton. #Bruins

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

What happens when he is 29/30 and still in his prime for a few more years? He's going to ask for the world. I'd rather bridge him the 2-3 years, and then go the full 8 so that we buy those years from him.

Thats so far down the road. So very far. If he asks for the world then the cap should be high enough you can offer more and manage term better then. In no way should the Flames play with fire and sour the relationship with the player so early by doing the whole headache of negotiating a bridge deal.

[Caged Great]

I'd do 8 X 6 on Monahan structured this way 4 4 6 6 6 6 8 8

Yes he would require a huge bump in pay after the deal is done, but the Hawks are going to be fine with Toews/Kane's deals. It'll just require additional quality drafting is all.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

What happens when he is 29/30 and still in his prime for a few more years? He's going to ask for the world. I'd rather bridge him the 2-3 years, and then go the full 8 so that we buy those years from him.

For most players, they would no longer be in their prime. At 29/30 he would have already spent 11 seasons in the NHL, with hopefully a lot of playoff games as well. I don't think as the GM, Treliving needs to be overly concern on what this contract will look like in 9 years. Too many things can change in that time frame.