That is correct.
Why on earth should you have a vote on an issue of such magnitude?
You are not a stakeholder. You abandoned your country. You turned your back on it, walked away from it, You are not qualified to make a decision given that you will not be affected by the outcome. You have nothing invested in the outcome except your emotion.
It is selfish and arrogant to think otherwise.
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That is correct.
Why on earth should you have a vote on an issue of such magnitude?
You are not a stakeholder. You abandoned your country. You turned your back on it, walked away from it, You are not qualified to make a decision given that you will not be affected by the outcome. You have nothing invested in the outcome except your emotion.
It is selfish and arrogant to think otherwise.
That's really harsh, if you are a citizen of a country you should be able to vote, just because you are not living there does not mean you do not have a stake in the vote.
I live in Iceland and I will vote in Canada's Federal elections, I care deeply about what happens in Canada and may live there again in the future, either way its my duty and privilege to vote and I take that very seriously.
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That is correct.
Why on earth should you have a vote on an issue of such magnitude?
You are not a stakeholder. You abandoned your country. You turned your back on it, walked away from it, You are not qualified to make a decision given that you will not be affected by the outcome. You have nothing invested in the outcome except your emotion.
It is selfish and arrogant to think otherwise.
I find it hard to justify the voting eligibility criteria in this referendum. Recall: eligible voters in the referendum must be either a British, Irish, or EU citizen resident in Scotland and at least 16 years old.
So Scottish ex-pats are out. I have lots of Scottish coworkers here in England and none of them can vote. I have one mate who had been working in London for the past 6 or 7 years and moved back to Glasgow at the beginning of July (coincidentally, not just to vote), and he was able to vote.
Meanwhile English people living in Scotland can vote (and there are lots of them--on the numerous military bases, or working in the oilpatch or finance, for instance).
Also, there are lots of EU citizens living in Scotland who voted as well. I think a poll revealed that 85% of Poles living in Scotland (the highest non-UK eligible voting nationality) were planning to vote.
So it really is just a snapshot of people who happen to be living in Scotland for a couple of months leading up to 18 September 2014--they might have just arrived, or they might just be on their way out.
Is it right that they and they alone should have the right to vote on an issue of such magnitude (and permanence)?
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Yeah its quite ridiculous, if you are a Scottish citizen you should be able to vote.
This certainly hurt the Yes vote, there are lots of EU and British citizens in Scotland working, while there are plenty of expats all around the world.
That was rather my point. The justification I was responding to about the age being 16 because 16 and 17 year olds are the future of Scotland was ridiculous on its face because younger kids are no less the future. 16 was an arbitrary figure, and given it was expected the youth vote would carry the load for the yes side, does appear to be rooted more in opportunism rather than anything else.
Winning and losing is not a concept confined to the sporting field. Nor is showing bitter feelings toward people with different viewpoints because you're upset your cause failed. Any sporting context you read is an invention entirely of your own making.
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Is it right that they, and they alone should have the right to vote on an issue of such magnitude (and permanence)?
It's more right (imo, of course) that they alone should have the right to vote given the magnitude of the event given that they are the ones that will be living with the consequences of the decision as opposed to a bunch of folks voting with no investment whatsoever in the result except personal beliefs and emotions.
imo the election was done as fairly as possible. It was of such a magnitude that it was only right that it was for the people of Scotland to decide, not Scottish people.
That is correct.
Why on earth should you have a vote on an issue of such magnitude?
You are not a stakeholder. You abandoned your country. You turned your back on it, walked away from it, You are not qualified to make a decision given that you will not be affected by the outcome. You have nothing invested in the outcome except your emotion.
It is selfish and arrogant to think otherwise.
Interesting comment since I was thinking about this a lot. Perhaps the issue is not so black and white. Surely if there was a country that had many refugees around the world, who fled because of an oppressive regime, we would want them to vote in an election as it's possible they would return and only left to flee the current government.
Interesting comment since I was thinking about this a lot. Perhaps the issue is not so black and white. Surely if there was a country that had many refugees around the world, who fled because of an oppressive regime, we would want them to vote in an election as it's possible they would return and only left to flee the current government.
Yeah, but that scenario is not what we have with Scotland ... so
That is correct.
Why on earth should you have a vote on an issue of such magnitude?
You are not a stakeholder. You abandoned your country. You turned your back on it, walked away from it, You are not qualified to make a decision given that you will not be affected by the outcome. You have nothing invested in the outcome except your emotion.
It is selfish and arrogant to think otherwise.
So people like my parents who have worked, payed taxes and have pensions there shouldn't get to vote?
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It's more right (imo, of course) that they alone should have the right to vote given the magnitude of the event given that they are the ones that will be living with the consequences of the decision as opposed to a bunch of folks voting with no investment whatsoever in the result except personal beliefs and emotions.
imo the election was done as fairly as possible. It was of such a magnitude that it was only right that it was for the people of Scotland to decide, not Scottish people.
I found the bold interesting. Have you ever left a country? Or have your parents?
The fact that a Scot isn't living in Scotland doesn't mean they'll never live there again, nor does it mean they don't have a real investment in their country.
If anything, people voting with no investment outside of personal beliefs and emotions is not exclusive to those outside of Scotland, and I'm sure made up many votes in Scotland itself.
So 16 year olds that can get married and have kids legally do not have a say in the country that they will live in for maybe the next 60 years and their children maybe for the next 80-90 years???
Hahahaha.....muppet
Exactly. In fact there was more at stake for 16 year olds than coffin dodgers.
