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Old 09-18-2014, 10:47 PM   #401
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it doesn't reflect the opinions of the majority of the English either
So that makes it ok? Or requiring wholesale change?
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I believe Scotland Yard had the votes tallied months ago. Proof is in the pudding; lack of exit polls.


Good lord Scotland Yard is impressive. Managed to fool 5 million voters to thinking their vote counted. I'm amazed with that much time and focus on faking the Independence vote crime in London didn't quadruple over the past few months.
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But look on the bright side, Salmond got everything he set out for, devomax was always his preferred option
Cameron was never going to keep that promise

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Old 09-18-2014, 10:50 PM   #404
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so do African kids get YES SCOTLAND T-shirts tomorrow?
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:51 PM   #405
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Cameron was never going to keep that promise
So it wouldn't be a promise then. It would be another big fat lie told by the usual suspects so that they get what they want.
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:53 PM   #406
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So it wouldn't be a promise then. It would be another big fat lie told by the usual suspects so that they get what they want.
Cameron is a proven liar, I don't think anyone believes him on anything at this point or at least they shouldn't, if that is true about not giving devomax its just another to add to the list
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:58 PM   #407
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heh

getting back to the night in quebec, they counted 5 million votes in about 3 hours. Those 3 hours were just tense drama, the news channels could not keep up.

Here's a clip of the declaration, watch the numbers continuously jump, imagine watching that live.

It was a pretty scary night.
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:00 PM   #408
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So 16 year olds that can get married and have kids legally do not have a say in the country that they will live in for maybe the next 60 years and their children maybe for the next 80-90 years???

Hahahaha.....muppet
Oh you're bitter
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:21 PM   #409
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Oh you're bitter
Nah mate. I'm just prepared to trust our young people in deciding on their own futures. I also just hope for the best for Scotland. The people have voted and we all have to respect and live with the results. However, history does not bode well for any positive change so we will all have to live with the consequences - be they good or bad.

Good luck mate. I don't agree with your views but that's life.
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It would be interesting to watch the reaction to this vote here in Spain ... if only I could understand the news
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Nah mate. I'm just prepared to trust our young people in deciding on their own futures. I also just hope for the best for Scotland. The people have voted and we all have to respect and live with the results. However, history does not bode well for any positive change so we will all have to live with the consequences - be they good or bad.

Good luck mate. I don't agree with your views but that's life.
28/32 councils said no
With the snp making the rules , lowering the age not letting epats vote , soldiers living in in England you still lost .. Roasted to be honest

End of the day Scotland voted correct. This is only the beginning we must ensure our country never has to be in this position again. Scotland has spoken we are British and proud. Next step get the snp out, change our anthem and stop a divided country
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28/32 councils said no
With the snp making the rules , lowering the age not letting epats vote , soldiers living in in England you still lost .. Roasted to be honest

End of the day Scotland voted correct. This is only the beginning we must ensure our country never has to be in this position again. Scotland has spoken we are British and proud. Next step get the snp out, change our anthem and stop a divided country
Ok tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you are clearly an orange Rangers bigot. The less I have to deal with your kind the better.
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I am curious to see the voter turnout for youth voters. I am also curious to see if engaging young people at an earlier age by allowing them to vote will cause them to stay politically engaged for future generations.

I think the exposure young people got and discussions in school about their vote actually meaning something was a pretty fantastic gift for that generation, regardless of how they voted.

Great experiment for Canada to watch.
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:07 AM   #414
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Ok tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you are clearly an orange Rangers bigot. The less I have to deal with your kind the better.
And get it right up you.
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And get it right up you.
Thanks for reinforcing my point. Bigot.
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Thanks for reinforcing my point. Bigot.
You brought religion into our conversation not me.

I'd love to argue with you all night but I have champagne and a party to go to

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Seriously guys. Take it to pm
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:39 AM   #418
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Seriously guys. Take it to pm
Can't be bothered. Met many a person like him back in Scotland. Same sh 1t different country.

Good night
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Kind of embarrassing that scottish citizens are cheering for a vote which says that they don't have enough confidence in themselves and have to rely on their big brothers from england. Sad show of fear over self belief.
Maybe they just see themselves as UK citizens more than purely Scottish, there's nothing wrong with that. It's a big reason why the push for independence has died down in Quebec, most young people there identify themselves as Canadian over Quebecois. I imagine the two nations hosting Olympics so recently has helped both cases
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Why 16 then and not 14? 12?
Any line is gonna be arbitrary, so why not 16?
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