[News] UPD: Friedman: Peters being officially removed as head coach is close

[Aarongavey]

Imagine the joy that Lindholm and Hanifin would have felt in April 2018 when Peters left Carolina, only to be reunited with him a couple months later in Calgary.

[bigtmac19]

I think they are taking way too long to make this official. It should not be a hard decision.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

well, that pretty much is the nail in the coffin...

after reading all the former players comment though, it makes you wonder how on earth did BT and the Flames organization drop the ball this badly on the hire...?

The Flames, and Tree in particular, are very concerned with keeping their affairs private. I doubt they spoke with former players because they wanted a lid on things until Peters had accepted a coaching contract. Former players might have let the cat out of the bag.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

It's not like Brad just hired some random guy off the streets. They met when Peters was coaching team Canada...that is a pretty solid reference. Some other top hockey minds saw fit to give Peters a high level position.

Treliving was one of the managers of the 2016 team Peters coached. Peters work at the Worlds supposedly impressed Treliving to the point he felt he was the guy. I don't think the hiring had anything to do with any reputations for being a hard ass. They worked together, won a gold medal and Treliving felt they could replicate that success in Calgary.

[Lanny_McDonald]

What really is annoying in all of this is the Flames will get a black eye, when it was a Chicago Wolves employee who did the wrong. All the discussion and pictures are going to focus on Peters as a Flames employee in Flames practice togs. That is going to suck as it wasn't the "Flames" in the middle of this mess.

[djsFlames]

Apparently legal issues are what is holding up the firing/resignation, according to a source.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

I think they are taking way too long to make this official. It should not be a hard decision.

All the evidence we have suggests the decision itself was made a while ago, but it can’t be made official until the Flames legal experts have been given time to handle it.

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

I think they are taking way too long to make this official. It should not be a hard decision.

Probably just lawyer stuff. A guy like Treliving will have his bases covered before pulling the trigger.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

I think they are taking way too long to make this official. It should not be a hard decision.

You are wrong. I would be his contract has bad behavior clauses that give the Flames the right to terminate without compensation. I also be he's arguing (a) it's not behaviour that gives rise to it, but rather, criminal behaviour would. And if it does, he's arguing it only covers behaviour while a member of the staff, and this was 10 years and three teams ago. The latter is the more tricky argument.

It's just a money thing.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by New Era

What really is annoying in all of this is the Flames will get a black eye, when it was a Chicago Wolves employee who did the wrong. All the discussion and pictures are going to focus on Peters as a Flames employee in Flames practice togs. That is going to suck as it wasn't the "Flames" in the middle of this mess.

Yep...then another team gave him an NHL job for four years until HE LEFT. Also hockey Canada gave him a top job. Yet this will all be Tre's fault somehow

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

Probably just lawyer stuff. A guy like Treliving will have his bases covered before pulling the trigger.

I wouldn’t be surprised if league lawyers were also involved.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by New Era

What really is annoying in all of this is the Flames will get a black eye, when it was a Chicago Wolves employee who did the wrong. All the discussion and pictures are going to focus on Peters as a Flames employee in Flames practice togs. That is going to suck as it wasn't the "Flames" in the middle of this mess.

I think you're over thinking things. As long as the Flames do it the right way, there's not going to be a lot of backlash. The headline will be "Flames coach fired for previous racist remarks, Flames cite zero-tolerance of racism." And no one will bat an eye.

It's the arguments brought forth by bozos in this thread, like it happened too long ago, PC culture getting out of hand, the N word is a mine field for white males and using the Lord's name in vain is just as bad, that might give the Flames, or at least the fan base, a "blackeye." And anyone with half a brain will understand that it's a very select few fans saying those stupid things.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

I think they are taking way too long to make this official. It should not be a hard decision.

Why? What is the rush to fire him? He's not going to be behind the bench again for the Flames. The NHL can't jump up and fire high level employees within hours of accusatory tweets as it sets a bad president. They should do a thorough investigation which they are. We all know he's going to get relieved of his duties so I don't understand why some are so impatient to want it announced right this minute.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by New Era

What really is annoying in all of this is the Flames will get a black eye, when it was a Chicago Wolves employee who did the wrong. All the discussion and pictures are going to focus on Peters as a Flames employee in Flames practice togs. That is going to suck as it wasn't the "Flames" in the middle of this mess.

Quite the opposite. Tre came out immediately following the news, a prompt investigation and a quick result will (inevitably) be announced by tomorrow morning.

The Flames will look like an org. that doesn't tolerate this kind of thing, acted professionally and swiftly. There is no reason the Flames will be dragged through the mud on this.

[Skyceman]

I think Brad partially relied on the fact that Hockey Canada had hired Peters to coach multiple tournaments in the first place. That is where they first worked together and had professional success.

If I were in the same position, I would have assumed that Hockey Canada had done their own due diligence before hiring Peters.

[burn_this_city]

Blackhawks and Stan Bowman will wear this more than the Flames.

[Split98]

I'm not liking this "Tre should have known better" narrative if I'm honest

And I think what Aliu has brought to light (still allegedly?) is far different from what is being tacked on. One talks about hateful speech and racism...

...The other is using physical abuse to 'motivate' players. That is another debate, and so we're all incredibly clear: I am not saying that either are ok.

But what's being tacked on are stories where a hard-ass coach crosses a line (depending on who you talk to, as well). I can understand players problem with this, but it by no means is a new tactic and only in very recent times are we starting to ask for better of leadership. I remember that Philly GIF, and when it happened I don't remember many people being too offended about it

So until we hear anything more, how can we assume Tre should have known?

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by New Era

What really is annoying in all of this is the Flames will get a black eye, when it was a Chicago Wolves employee who did the wrong. All the discussion and pictures are going to focus on Peters as a Flames employee in Flames practice togs. That is going to suck as it wasn't the "Flames" in the middle of this mess.

What? It's a only a black eye if they don't fire him...

The Flames will come out ahead once they fire him. They have the chance of being in the center of this cultural change within hockey and denounce these abhorrent acts.

Again, this is not a bad thing that it all came forward. It's good, it's progress for the whole sport overall.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

The Flames, and Tree in particular, are very concerned with keeping their affairs private. I doubt they spoke with former players because they wanted a lid on things until Peters had accepted a coaching contract. Former players might have let the cat out of the bag.

it seems like there is a bit of a 'culture of silence' in the NHL (and probably all pro sports)... but you'd think they would have talked to the Canes management and possibly former assistant coaches at least prior to the hire?

i'd be curious to know more about Derek Ryan, who played for Peters down in the WHL and chose to sign with Calgary, in part, due to his relationship with Peters... Now it could very much be a case of stars being treated differently, so maybe Ryan never bore the brunt of Peter's behavior, but i'd be surprised if he never saw anything...

anyways, its a cluster f that's for sure...

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Blackhawks and Stan Bowman will wear this more than the Flames.

Probably but some in the media love to rip on the Flames