The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

He inadvertently revealed his alt/burner account and ummm.....yeah....

https://twitter.com/user/status/1650616986227843077

https://twitter.com/user/status/1650655739608969217

[GGG]

Originally Posted by jayswin

You need to learn about this and understand it, justaguy. "People look at the outside and think they understand", as you said yourself. It seems you just don't understand the political climate that has allowed the rich to conquer those beneath them in a way they historically couldn't.

I’d disagree that it’s just politics

I think with current communication and distribution it’s more likely that one product or idea dominates. Everyone uses the same operating system and same social networks etc. it was much harder to build these monopolies with physical goods like standard oil.

So the type of products creating billionaires are more naturally monopolistic than previously. Which is where you can give Musk a little credit that somehow he became the richest man in the world in a non-monopoly space with entrenched competition.

Now the financial services sector that generates billionaires is a political structure thing so some of what you are saying is true.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GGG

I’d disagree that it’s just politics

I think with current communication and distribution it’s more likely that one product or idea dominates. Everyone uses the same operating system and same social networks etc. it was much harder to build these monopolies with physical goods like standard oil.

So the type of products creating billionaires are more naturally monopolistic than previously. Which is where you can give Musk a little credit that somehow he became the richest man in the world in a non-monopoly space with entrenched competition.

Now the financial services sector that generates billionaires is a political structure thing so some of what you are saying is true.

Are you aware of the rail monopolies in Canada and historically in the USA? A tech that's been around for what, 300 years?

[Matata]

I think the dust has settled and Elon has cleanly won the day here: stock price has rebounded; the wheels haven't fallen off the tech; monthly active users only had a mild decline compared to the Covid-peak and is well above pre-covid rates; ad revenues dipped but are bouncing back and are higher than pre-covid; he's arguably providing the broadest range of speech of any major social network platform; he's muted exterior influence from big tech, legacy media and military intelligence; And on a personal note: all my favourite accounts have been re-instated and I think the meltdown following his takeover has been an endless geyser of organic comedy.

It seems the area he performed the worst is making advertisers happy, but he's the one one taking the hit on this and he had to do it to accomplish everything else. It's also hard to think that Elon sees this as a failure in any way, he now has total control and hasn't really lost anything. It's still hard to be optimistic about twitters future given it's past, Elon's spastic nature and tendency to ditch an old company for a new one, and I wonder how well he'll actually do in resisting exterior influence, but this win clearly belongs to Elon.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Matata

I think the dust has settled and Elon has cleanly won the day here: stock price has rebounded;

Twitter was delisted; there is no stock price.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by timun

Twitter was delisted; there is no stock price.

My bad, was looking at old data, ad revenue and monthly users should still be accurate.


e: it's hard to get a read on current evaluation, I'm seeing a pretty broad range and twitter was also way over-valued when he bought it, but he probably is in the red for $10-20B here. Monthly users and ad revenue would indicate the companies performs about as well as it did at peak stock price (with 80% less staff too), but the old valuation was a fantasy and I don't think he can restore that.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Matata

I think the dust has settled and Elon has cleanly won the day here: stock price has rebounded; the wheels haven't fallen off the tech; monthly active users only had a mild decline compared to the Covid-peak and is well above pre-covid rates; ad revenues dipped but are bouncing back and are higher than pre-covid; he's arguably providing the broadest range of speech of any major social network platform; he's muted exterior influence from big tech, legacy media and military intelligence; And on a personal note: all my favourite accounts have been re-instated and I think the meltdown following his takeover has been an endless geyser of organic comedy.

It seems the area he performed the worst is making advertisers happy, but he's the one one taking the hit on this and he had to do it to accomplish everything else. It's also hard to think that Elon sees this as a failure in any way, he now has total control and hasn't really lost anything. It's still hard to be optimistic about twitters future given it's past, Elon's spastic nature and tendency to ditch an old company for a new one, and I wonder how well he'll actually do in resisting exterior influence, but this win clearly belongs to Elon.

Hey where can I buy Twitter stock? I'm really interested in it now since Elon has won the day.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Matata

I think the dust has settled and Elon has cleanly won the day here: stock price has rebounded; the wheels haven't fallen off the tech; monthly active users only had a mild decline compared to the Covid-peak and is well above pre-covid rates; ad revenues dipped but are bouncing back and are higher than pre-covid; he's arguably providing the broadest range of speech of any major social network platform; he's muted exterior influence from big tech, legacy media and military intelligence; And on a personal note: all my favourite accounts have been re-instated and I think the meltdown following his takeover has been an endless geyser of organic comedy.

It seems the area he performed the worst is making advertisers happy, but he's the one one taking the hit on this and he had to do it to accomplish everything else. It's also hard to think that Elon sees this as a failure in any way, he now has total control and hasn't really lost anything. It's still hard to be optimistic about twitters future given it's past, Elon's spastic nature and tendency to ditch an old company for a new one, and I wonder how well he'll actually do in resisting exterior influence, but this win clearly belongs to Elon.

Taking a money losing company and having it continue losing money while pissing off those who give you money is considered a success?

This is a success in terms of him spending billions on a platform with a wide reach to sow propaganda from external sources like the media barons of old.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Are you aware of the rail monopolies in Canada and historically in the USA? A tech that's been around for what, 300 years?

Outside of Canada where rail monopolies were politically created Rail took hundreds of years to consolidate the way it has.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Matata

My bad, was looking at old data, ad revenue and monthly users should still be accurate.


e: it's hard to get a read on current evaluation, I'm seeing a pretty broad range and twitter was also way over-valued when he bought it, but he probably is in the red for $10-20B here. Monthly users and ad revenue would indicate the companies performs about as well as it did at peak stock price (with 80% less staff too), but the old valuation was a fantasy and I don't think he can restore that.

So how is that a success then. Most people don’t think losing 30-40 billion as a success

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Matata

My bad, was looking at old data, ad revenue and monthly users should still be accurate.


e: it's hard to get a read on current evaluation, I'm seeing a pretty broad range and twitter was also way over-valued when he bought it, but he probably is in the red for $10-20B here. Monthly users and ad revenue would indicate the companies performs about as well as it did at peak stock price (with 80% less staff too), but the old valuation was a fantasy and I don't think he can restore that.

Ok so losing 10-20 billion dollars is winning the day in your eyes?

If you are going to troll, ####ing troll better. If you are seriously this stupid, then God have mercy on your dumbass.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Matata

My bad, was looking at old data, ad revenue and monthly users should still be accurate.


e: it's hard to get a read on current evaluation, I'm seeing a pretty broad range and twitter was also way over-valued when he bought it, but he probably is in the red for $10-20B here. Monthly users and ad revenue would indicate the companies performs about as well as it did at peak stock price (with 80% less staff too), but the old valuation was a fantasy and I don't think he can restore that.

Can you share where you are getting these numbers? From what I've read, ad revenue is way the #### down, and Twitter Blue is not coming anywhere close to replacing it. He's certainly cut costs. He's also allowed racists and bigots a place to flourish, so I guess that's good? I'm not rally sure what your idea of winning is, but I don't really see it.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Matata

I think the dust has settled and Elon has cleanly won the day here: stock price has rebounded; the wheels haven't fallen off the tech; monthly active users only had a mild decline compared to the Covid-peak and is well above pre-covid rates; ad revenues dipped but are bouncing back and are higher than pre-covid; he's arguably providing the broadest range of speech of any major social network platform; he's muted exterior influence from big tech, legacy media and military intelligence; And on a personal note: all my favourite accounts have been re-instated and I think the meltdown following his takeover has been an endless geyser of organic comedy.

It seems the area he performed the worst is making advertisers happy, but he's the one one taking the hit on this and he had to do it to accomplish everything else. It's also hard to think that Elon sees this as a failure in any way, he now has total control and hasn't really lost anything. It's still hard to be optimistic about twitters future given it's past, Elon's spastic nature and tendency to ditch an old company for a new one, and I wonder how well he'll actually do in resisting exterior influence, but this win clearly belongs to Elon.

oh do tell.
I'm sure it will be very enlightening.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

oh do tell.
I'm sure it will be very enlightening.

The very fact that all his favourite accounts were blocked by previous Twitter should be telling enough as to the quality of information they provided.

[PsYcNeT]

Pretty sure @RacialConciousness got banned again. But it took like 6 weeks.

[Barnes]

Trump University
Business 103

How to make your ad supported microblogging platform a success by pissing off you advertisers.

4 Credits

[Fuzz]

Seems Matata's sources are bull####, which is why I'd like to know where the info comes from...

According to a report by Bloomberg, last year, from September to October, the top advertisers on Twitter spent $71 million on ads. However, during the previous two months, that figure dropped to $7.6 million, a decline of 89%, Bloomberg cited research firm Pathmatics.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitt...232344915.html


I guess that's what we are calling success.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Matata

I think the dust has settled and Elon has cleanly won the day here: stock price has rebounded; the wheels haven't fallen off the tech; monthly active users only had a mild decline compared to the Covid-peak and is well above pre-covid rates; ad revenues dipped but are bouncing back and are higher than pre-covid; he's arguably providing the broadest range of speech of any major social network platform; he's muted exterior influence from big tech, legacy media and military intelligence; And on a personal note: all my favourite accounts have been re-instated and I think the meltdown following his takeover has been an endless geyser of organic comedy.

It seems the area he performed the worst is making advertisers happy, but he's the one one taking the hit on this and he had to do it to accomplish everything else. It's also hard to think that Elon sees this as a failure in any way, he now has total control and hasn't really lost anything. It's still hard to be optimistic about twitters future given it's past, Elon's spastic nature and tendency to ditch an old company for a new one, and I wonder how well he'll actually do in resisting exterior influence, but this win clearly belongs to Elon.

This is the only way I can explain this post:

Spoiler!

[PsYcNeT]

Musk effectively paid 44b to LARP as a customer service rep for the absolute dumbest people alive.

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by GGG

So if you recognize the difference between claiming to be an expert and having an opinion where do you see people claiming to be experts here?

I see a lot of people here claiming to know how hard these people work, like they know as a fact. I simply gave my opinions based on my actual observations.