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Old 02-11-2013, 01:01 PM   #301
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and they have also signed Tyler Sexsmith IIRC.
That was just an emergency one game deal; He was in Mission BC so he was able to make it to the game, they released him right after.
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Yeah, the good times that were Craig Button....get rid of St.Louis, and Giguere, let a guy like Anderson get away so they could keep Levente Szuper.

At least a guy like Sutter did hit on a few trades. Unfortunately Flames GM's are in a position where they have to hit on a lot of trades due to their inept drafting.
Can't forget Savard!
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #303
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I also heard of a "rock solid" plan going forward, I dont put too much stock into what they say anymore good and/or bad.
But they didn't say anything about the injuries, so I don't understand the purpose of your post or how it links to what I said.

Other than to bash management, of course.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:04 PM   #304
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But they didn't say anything about the injuries, so I don't understand the purpose of your post or how it links to what I said.

Other than to bash management, of course.
To Bash management - yes!
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:05 PM   #305
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He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He later printed this:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...-status/12444/
I don't follow Dater, so I had no idea he retracted that. Thanks for the info, I was wrong.

So we do have Ramo's rights for 1 more season.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:05 PM   #306
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I'm thinking the guy who is 9th in save % and 6th in GAA is in fact not the best goalie in the KHL.
Goalie stats are a tricky thing. The goalie with the best GAA and SV% in a league isn't necessarily the best goalie. GAA is more of a team defensive stat. SV% can be skewed in either direction by the team allowing a lot of low % shots (which would give the goalie a high SV%) or by the team not allowing a lot of shots but allowing a lot of odd man breaks and high quality chances (which would lower the goalies SV%). IMO there is no pure goalie stat that tells us how good a goalie is. Goalie stats are hugely dependant on team defensive play.

Given how questionable goalie stats are combined with the fact that most of us have not seen any sizeable amount of Ramo's games and we really can't judge how quality of a prospect is. One of the posters is deferring to the Flames management and scouts opinion of Ramo and frankly that is about all we have to go on.
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and they have also signed Tyler Sexsmith IIRC.
Sexsmith was only signed for the 1 game.
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Kipper is out for the season! I have in on word from an inside source.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:11 PM   #309
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Kipper is out for the season! I have in on word from an inside source.
We all have in on word too!

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Old 02-11-2013, 01:12 PM   #310
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Kipper is out for the season! I have in on word from an inside source.
you should relay your source to a mod so we know whether to disregard.
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Kipper is out for the season! I have in on word from an inside source.
Another big scoop from the nanny? PM a mod
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Hartley on the FAN makes it sound like Kipper is not far from returning
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:20 PM   #313
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Irving has not played well and has gotten more than enough opportunity in the past few years.

Not sure why people thought he played well on Saturday. He looked really shaky.
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Kiprusoff is listed as day-to-day and was on the ice Monday morning. If all goes well, he could come off Injured Reserve and play Wednesday with MacDonald expected to be Kiprusoff's backup.
Relax everyone. Right decision or not, this move is about addressing our back up situation, not our starter.

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Old 02-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #315
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Irving has not played well and has gotten more than enough opportunity in the past few years.

Not sure why people thought he played well on Saturday. He looked really shaky.
Because he made saves he had no business making.

The only reason he ended up looking "shaky", is because the team played their worst game of the season in front of him, so he faced a near constant barrage of quality scoring chances.

He didn't stop all of them, no one is denying that. But he played damn well, and certainly mitigated the damage. Deflections, rebounds, Vancouver winning almost every offensive zone draw, Vancouver drawing all the penalty calls... it was just a bad night overall.

It was an embarrassing performance by the team in front of him, I hope they all apologized to him afterward.

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Old 02-11-2013, 01:26 PM   #316
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Ouch if that's true. I also read that his team in Russia was thinking of giving him a huge money contract. I believe the article said that it would make Ramo the highest paid goaltender in the history of the KHL. It did say that Ramo wanted to come back to the NHL, but money is money.
When he signed it, Rämö's current contract was already said to be the biggest in KHL history (see link below), and I don't think he's going to be offered a paycut, so that could well be true. But he has clearly expressed that he wants to play in the NHL.

http://communities.sportsnet.ca/thre...ullThread=true
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:27 PM   #317
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Hartley on the FAN makes it sound like Kipper is not far from returning
Can't see it based on Roger's tweet.

To be Clear- Kiprusoff skated this am #Flames but..no normal movements, no butterfly, no knee bends..etcs..seems like a while yet to me.

https://twitter.com/RogMillions
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #318
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Gustavson was the best goalie outside the NHL at one point and that didn't work out so well.
This is a virtually meaningless point to make in my opinion. The first overall draft picks include Crosby and complete busts, but they aren't all expected to be the same quality. It's one thing to recognize there's a high degree of unpredictability, but it's completely another to say "Eff it, it's impossible to really make any projections." Gustavsson was good for 62 games over two years of the SEL, which is lower than the KHL. Ramo already had a taste of NHL when he was younger and then success in the KHL for four years and over 170 games.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:29 PM   #319
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Adjust your tin foil hats...

Maybe they grabbed him off waivers just because Feaster gets his jimmies off by watching CP blow up.
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It boggles my mind how owners continue to open their pocketbooks for this guy. This addition makes zero sense.

Why is it so hard for the Flames to finally realize they need a competent backup?

For God's sakes just make the deal for Ben Bishop and get it over with.
Talk is that OTT wants a second rounder back - which we don't have this year and can't afford to give away in 2014.

Plus asking price may have changed since Spezza got hurt - they could use Bishop as part of a package for a C

MacDonald is a proven backup and he comes from a good organization, which I like. We're not going after Bishop or Bernier, roll the dice with Ramo next year.
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