Edmonton is No Good VIII: There's Still Something in the Water!

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Leon Draisaitl - "People tend to forget that we were the best team in Canada last year."

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[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

This is very important. It was NOT a playoff series.

It was a "play in" series. They failed, and did not "play in" the playoffs.

It was most likely simply a slip of the tongue. But the Oilers did not make the playoffs.

Because they are no good.

Quoted to drive home the point that the Oilers DID NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS LAST SEASON.

[stang]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

oILERs are sure lucky Klefbom is on LTIR. They're $361k under the cap, using most of that room. They wouldn't be able to ice a full roster with his 4.167 hit.

You really don’t have a clue.

They had to submit there roster using most the ltir to get that much wiggle room for the year. It’s why they have 9 d submitted.

They aren’t “lucky” to have klefbom on IR. That’s just stupid

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

This is very important. It was NOT a playoff series.

It was a "play in" series. They failed, and did not "play in" the playoffs.

It was most likely simply a slip of the tongue. But the Oilers did not make the playoffs.

Because they are no good.

Draisaitl saying that shows that he's dumb.

The Flames and Nucks and Habs made the playoffs, the Oilers did not.

The Oilers were terrible after the restart as the fluke factor on players like Yamamoto and Bear wore off and they looked pretty much ordinary.

They went out like a drowning rat with no fight in the seeding round to a 12th place team.

They were at best a mediocre team last year, not even close to the best team in Canada, and they rode a historically high and probably unsustainable special teams boost to cover their dreadful, 5v5 play. And yeah Oilers, teams are going to have spent time breaking down your power play and penalty kill so if it slips you're freaking dead.

I think the Oilers rode the fluke lightning last year before the lockdown. Yamamoto is not likely to see another 25% shooting percentage until her retires and plays bear league. Archibald had a 18% shooting percentage at least 5 points higher then his career.

They more then any other team feels like last year was an illusion and feel like the team that is most likely to regress based on special teams, based on career years and based on their line up this year.

Heck they might start strong, but they feel like a team that like last year is going to fade out.

I expect the first jersey to hit the ice by the end of March, and the first fearful "The Connor is fed up at carrying this team and is going to want out" by April, oh and the Oilers releasing their draft party schedule in April as well.

Die Oilers Die!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Weitz

The added players because he was going on LTIR..

Yup. They are a non-playoff team that is up against the Cap.

Thats just solid management right there.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by stang

You really don’t have a clue.

They had to submit there roster using most the ltir to get that much wiggle room for the year. It’s why they have 9 d submitted.

They aren’t “lucky” to have klefbom on IR. That’s just stupid

Nope, sorry. No need to get worked up. I know math is hard for Oiler fans.

With only a 20 man roster, with Klefbom in over Jones you'd be over the cap.
Jones, Bouchard, Lagesson and KoekKoek would have to had gone to the taxi squad or minors.

You couldn't dress a 13th forward or a 7th defenseman.

12 = 40.744166M
RNH-McDavid-Kassian
Kahun-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Archibald-Turris-Puljujarvi
Ennis-Khaira-Chiasson

6 = 23.683666M
Klefbom-Nurse
Bear-Larsson
Russell-Barrie

2 = 6M
Koskinen
Smith = 79

+ IR = 6.665M
Neal
Haas

+ Retained (.75M) Buyouts (3.833,333M) bonus carryover (.341,326M)
= 82.017491M

Cap is 81.5M

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Nope, sorry. No need to get worked up. I know math is hard for Oiler fans.

With only a 20 man roster, with Klefbom in over Jones you'd be over the cap.
Jones, Bouchard, Lagesson and KoekKoek would have to had gone to the taxi squad or minors.

You couldn't dress a 13th forward or a 7th defenseman.

12 = 40.744166M
RNH-McDavid-Kassian
Kahun-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Archibald-Turris-Puljujarvi
Ennis-Khaira-Chiasson

6 = 23.683666M
Klefbom-Nurse
Bear-Larsson
Russell-Barrie

2 = 6M
Koskinen
Smith = 79

+ IR = 6.665M
Neal
Haas

+ Retained (.75M) Buyouts (3.833,333M) bonus carryover (.341,326M)
= 82.017491M

Cap is 81.5M

Barrie isn't signed if Klefbom isn't on LTIR.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Barrie isn't signed if Klefbom isn't on LTIR.

That's beyond obvious. You're lucky Klefbom is on LTIR.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

That's beyond obvious. You're lucky Klefbom is on LTIR.

Not really they traded off a at least good second pairing who can play first pairing in a pinch blueliner for a guy that's awful in his own end bottom pairing guy that's at best a pp specialist.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Nope, sorry. No need to get worked up. I know math is hard for Oiler fans.

With only a 20 man roster, with Klefbom in over Jones you'd be over the cap.
Jones, Bouchard, Lagesson and KoekKoek would have to had gone to the taxi squad or minors.

You couldn't dress a 13th forward or a 7th defenseman.

12 = 40.744166M
RNH-McDavid-Kassian
Kahun-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Archibald-Turris-Puljujarvi
Ennis-Khaira-Chiasson

6 = 23.683666M
Klefbom-Nurse
Bear-Larsson
Russell-Barrie

2 = 6M
Koskinen
Smith = 79

+ IR = 6.665M
Neal
Haas

+ Retained (.75M) Buyouts (3.833,333M) bonus carryover (.341,326M)
= 82.017491M

Cap is 81.5M

Lol how can you build a team this paper thin and still be over the cap. This deserves a Banner.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Not really they traded off a at least good second pairing who can play first pairing in a pinch blueliner for a guy that's awful in his own end bottom pairing guy that's at best a pp specialist.

Wrong thread Captain

You guys are in offseason form.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

RNH-McDavid-Kassian
Kahun-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Archibald-Turris-Puljujarvi
Ennis-Khaira-Chiasson

That is one sorry looking group of forwards.

Would Kahun or Kassian even make our third line?

That bottom 6 would be a taxi squad to most other teams.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

oILERs are sure lucky Klefbom is on LTIR. They're $361k under the cap, using most of that room. They wouldn't be able to ice a full roster with his 4.167 hit.

Other than the fact that he is their 3rd or 4th best player (and they don't have a 5th good player)

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by MrMike

That is one sorry looking group of forwards.

Would Kahun or Kassian even make our third line?

That bottom 6 would be a taxi squad to most other teams.

Kahun = Leivo
Kassian < Bennett
Yamamoto < Dube

And all 3 are in their top 6 because there are no other candidates

[Vinny01]

Last years Oilers were a lot like the team in 2017 that surprised some people and got to the playoffs. They had a lot of guys who had career years, had a historic special teams, got the new coach bump (that they like to use to discount our surge last year) and had players hit extremely high shooting percentage.

None of their additions were very impressive. Barrie is a downgrade on Klefbom and their cheap filler is very mediocre. I do think there is some potential risk Puljujarvi could break out and I see him bumping one of Kassian or Yamamoto down the lineup. I definitely don’t see Yamamoto having the same impact as last year.

Their goaltending and blueline is so terrible. I remember a lot of the media both local and National crown them top contenders after 2017 and they turned back into the pretenders they were.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Last years Oilers were a lot like the team in 2017 that surprised some people and got to the playoffs. They had a lot of guys who had career years, had a historic special teams, got the new coach bump (that they like to use to discount our surge last year) and had players hit extremely high shooting percentage.

None of their additions were very impressive. Barrie is a downgrade on Klefbom and their cheap filler is very mediocre. I do think there is some potential risk Puljujarvi could break out and I see him bumping one of Kassian or Yamamoto down the lineup. I definitely don’t see Yamamoto having the same impact as last year.

Their goaltending and blueline is so terrible. I remember a lot of the media both local and National crown them top contenders after 2017 and they turned back into the pretenders they were.

Even if Puljujarvi does have a break-out season, all that means is he replaces one of Kassian or Yamamoto, and they go down to the bottom 6 (where they belong) and don't put up any points.

In other words, there would be no significant positive bump overall. Just like when Chiasson got McDavid points, then Kassian did, then Yamamoto did, then Neal did. It isn't that any of them are any good (they aren't), it's just that someone gets to get the points bump of playing with their 2 good players.

[Mass_nerder]

Jeff Merrick picked them for the one lock for playoffs and McDavid is going to put up 90+ points. National media hyping Oilers and the presence of McDavid is enough to make the Oilers the best team in Canada.
Time is a flat circle.

[Enoch Root]

Serious question for Oiler fans...

Who is their 4th best forward? And 5th and 6th?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Other than the fact that he is their 3rd or 4th best player (and they don't have a 5th good player)

A drunken moose on skates could easily be their 4th best player. I'll let RNH take 3rd.

[CroFlames]

One thing that still gets me is they still say Decade of Darkness.

They've sucked since 2006. It's 2021 now.

I know math is hard.