2024 NHL Draft Thread

[ComixZone]

Just don’t make this mistake again.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1788331272257020139

https://twitter.com/user/status/1788216883336155514

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I did the calculations in another thread using the puckpedia pick value/cap value tool. 50% salary retained on Markstrom is equivalent to 29th pick in value. Add in another pick around there and the gap with the Van pick and retention is essentially a pick early in the 2nd round (35th). Is Markstom worth more or less than the 35th pick is now the question.

Martin Jones - worth the #29 pick and a former 5th round pick who has played nearly 500 games in the NHL

Can Talbot being worth a 2nd and a 3rd after 57 NHL games

varlamov being worth 11th overall and 54th overall

lehner being worth the 21st overall

Kuemper being worth a future 1st, a 3rd and a former 32nd overall pick

34 year old Ryan Miller and 3/4th liner Steve Ott traded for #25, #89 and #57 from the year before and two roster players (Chris Stewart and jarolav halak)

The one and only Brian Elliott was traded for #35 overall and a conditional third.

Given that virtually every single goaltender trade for a starter has been worth more than #35 one would have to think that Markstrom is worth more than #35.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Just don’t make this mistake again.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1788331272257020139

https://twitter.com/user/status/1788216883336155514

Lets see where they are at d+4 when we actually know what we have in a prospect. I think a lot if people are going to eat crow on honzek.

[Blaster86]

A lot can change for a young man betweern d+1 and d+2. Look at Lekkerimaki.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Just don’t make this mistake again.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1788331272257020139

https://twitter.com/user/status/1788216883336155514

Good teams like Carolina, Toronto, New York and Colorado walk away with much better players than the Flames while also making the playoffs.
Pretty frustrating. And this was entirely obvious and predictable.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I'm only watching videos and reading about him, but I would not be disappointed in snagging Catton. Not huge, but I do love speed and skill up front.

[EDMONTONisNG]

I get the Tij angle but I'd be really happy with Catton. Super skilled playmaking centre. No hesitation to pass or shoot

[Ped]

Just as people are allowed to still be hopeful with Honzek or anyone else, don't understand why other can't be disappointed with results so far.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by traptor

I don't think it's crazy that Demidov falls abit. I feel like Mitchkov was more highly regarding and he dropped to 7th. There's a huge risk given the geopolitics.

But for the most part I agree it's a little too random.

I got demidov at #9 and hage at #29.
That would be insane.

Chicago is not the sort of market that will have trouble keeping a Russian star happy.

[dissentowner]

Mock draft from NHL.com

https://www.nhl.com/news/mock-2024-n...shunov-silayev

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I'm only watching videos and reading about him, but I would not be disappointed in snagging Catton. Not huge, but I do love speed and skill up front.

Yeah, while doing the same as you I share that thought. If we walk away with Catton or Iginla I’d be ecstatic.

Helenius is someone I’m warming up to as well.

Tij is definitely my #1 for our pick though.

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, while doing the same as you I share that thought. If we walk away with Catton or Iginla I’d be ecstatic.

Helenius is someone I’m warming up to as well.

Tij is definitely my #1 for our pick though.

Parekh?

What if we pick him and he ends up like Ryan Ellis? Are we mad?

My draft list remains:

Catton
Parekh
Iggy

[Royle9]

I'd like to see these videos showing Barkov/Rantanen like plays/comparisons from Helenius.

I've watched a lot of his footage and all his U18 IIHF games and he looks more like he/s trending in the direction of a Backlund or Lundell as a better comparison. He's not elite at anything particular but more so a strong 2 way center.

Now every team could use that, including the flames but there's just too many more high impact players available at 9 that I don't see Helenius as the pick for me.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I'm only watching videos and reading about him, but I would not be disappointed in snagging Catton. Not huge, but I do love speed and skill up front.

Catton remains #3 on my list of players I hope the Flames draft. I would be happy if the Flames can walk away from the draft with any two of the following in the first round.

1. Macklin Celebrini (obviously not going to happen)
2. Zayne Parekh
3. Berkly Catton
4. Tij Iginla
5. Carter Yakemchuk
6. Liam Greentree
7. Beckett Sennecke
8. Ryder Ritchie
9. Michael Hage
10. Raoul Boilard
11. Dean Letourneau
12. Henry Mews

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Catton remains #3 on my list of players I hope the Flames draft. I would be happy if the Flames can walk away from the draft with any two of the following in the first round.

1. Macklin Celebrini (obviously not going to happen)
2. Zayne Parekh
3. Berkly Catton
4. Tij Iginla
5. Carter Yakemchuk
6. Liam Greentree
7. Beckett Sennecke
8. Ryder Ritchie
9. Michael Hage
10. Raoul Boilard
11. Dean Letourneau
12. Henry Mews

If we walked away with letourneau and catton? Home run.
If we use the van pick to snag ten( would like to see it done another way) from jersey?
Catton Yakemchuk? Start the car.

If we could get ten without involving the van pick.
Catton Yakemchuk letourneau. Heads explode!

[bigrangy]

My three favorite targets are Iginla/Yakemchuk/Buium (assuming he’s actually interested in being here)

Yakemchuk is going to be a force

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

My three favorite targets are Iginla/Yakemchuk/Buium (assuming he’s actually interested in being here)

Yakemchuk is going to be a force

Love yaks skillset.
Big=good
Skating is good not great can improve.
Great shot in close and from the blue line.
Hands of a forward.
Good vision and iq.
Doesnt mind laying out a big hit.

Like it a lot.

[Sandman]

Draft Thoughts (U-18 Edition, Vol.8):

LHC Valter Lindberg arrived at the U-18 Tournament still on a high from winning Gold with Skelleftea AIK in the J20 playoffs just over a week prior, forming a dominant line with Viggo Nordlund and Oskar Vuollet, and collecting 13 points in 9 games along the way, good enough for 4th overall in playoff scoring. In the regular season, the 5'9",168lb pivot was tied for 18th in league scoring and was 2nd on his team with 12 goals and 47 points in 45 games. With limited minutes at the U-18's, he only managed to post 3 points in 7 games, playing only 11:15 in the semi-final against Canada, and a mere 5:02 in the bronze-medal game against Slovakia. He did however, score the OT game-winner against the Swiss with a highlight-reel goal, that saw him cut to the middle between 2 defenders and fire it five-hole from the high slot. By draft standards, he is still relatively young with a July 13th birthday.

Lindberg is two-way center who can be deployed in a variety of roles, on either side of the rink. He is a skillful playmaker with high-end vision and IQ, and can dish at full speed, threading the needle through layers of traffic. His passing skill was the best I saw on display in the U-18's, and I would dare say that he might be one of the best in the draft in this regard- he's a wizard with the puck. He makes consistently good decisions, and makes very few mistakes, but there were many instances where his teammates couldn't finish, or extend the plays he created- especially on the powerplay, where his elite vision was evident. He can make cross-ice passes through defenders, or deliver the puck cross-crease through a crowd, and even sent a long-bomb from the corner to his D at the opposite point position through bodies. He can see seams that few other players can. Unfortunately, his skating is average at best right now, and although he offsets it somewhat with a high workrate in races, and by keeping his feet moving on the forecheck, his speed when combined with his size may keep him from being drafted. He's not explosive, his acceleration is sluggish, and he is need of a better top speed, but he has good agility to make sharp cuts for quick changes in direction, and can pivot away from checks. There's also a bit of lateral mobility in his repertoire for a more elusiveness.

Lindberg is very effective and quite disruptive on the forecheck, and gives opponents fits using a well-timed stick. It doesn't stop there though, as he hounds puck-carriers tenaciously in all three zones. He will go to the front of the crease to absorb abuse and to make plays, and he's surprisingly good down low and behind the net. Despite his diminutive stature, he doesn't shy away from contact and will throw the odd hit to win a puck, or take a hit to make a play- though he isn't really a physical player. With only 12 goals in league play, it's obvious that he's a pass-first playmaker, but he could stand to use his shot more often; his wrister could use a little more zip, but it's solid and accurate, and he can get it off quickly with little space to work in. Off the puck, he supports the play well, skating smart routes and staying in the right position to be playable, although he sometimes appears to be coasting and puck-watching. Lindberg displays awareness in all 3 zones, and is constantly disruptive to opponents. He is very good against the rush in the neutral zone, with uncanny anticipation to intercept passes, or the player they were meant for. He's solid defensively, and reads the play extremely well, taking away the middle of the ice with impeccable positioning and well-timed poke-checks. He's often the first forward back in the zone, and the last to leave.

It's not really Lindberg's speed that bothers me, it's his pace. He will not have the time at higher levels to slow down to analyze what's happening around him, and he won't always be able to wait for the play to come to him. It's a must that he learns to play a bit more aggressively. He needs a ton of work on faceoffs, though I doubt he will play center in the NHL- and that's another big problem, as his game seems tailor-made for the center position. It's one thing to be small, but it's another to be small AND slow- he needs plenty of work of his mobility, and also his strength as he can be overpowered rather easily. The brain is there, as well as the talent, but he's a long-term project at best, and it remains to be seen if any NHL teams will spend even a late-round draft pick to secure his rights. I'm leaning heavily towards no.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, while doing the same as you I share that thought. If we walk away with Catton or Iginla I’d be ecstatic.

Helenius is someone I’m warming up to as well.

Tij is definitely my #1 for our pick though.

After the U18s and the lottery, Tij is the clear #1 choice, assuming he’s available.

If he’s not, we’re gonna get one of Lindstrom, Catton, Dickinson or Parekh and any are acceptable consolations.

But if Iggy is still on the board, Iggy is the pick.

[dissentowner]

Wheelers latest mock has Flames selecting Iginla at 9..

https://theathletic.com/5477442/2024...shared-article