[PGT] Bruins 4 Flames 3 OT Loss

[nieuwy-89]

The combination of brutal goaltending, blown leads, and OT losses is just comical at this point. All you can do is laugh.

Hope we sell and get some assets.

Hope the players feel proud of themselves.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Or how Kadri had a wide open Hubey on a 2 on 1 and didn't make the pass. But hey, Huberdeau is the dog in doghouse.

Yup.

You cant crap on Kadri for not making the pass on one play and them #### on Huberdeau for making the pass on the next.

The dmen made a good play to just get the blade of his stick on the pass across but I prefer a pass on a 2-1 every time. You need to get a goalie like Ullmark moving laterally to score.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by zamler

Why did Sutter reward Backlund?

Vet vs young player. He's always been that way.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kings also gave up a first...they can pounce all they want. Nobody wants the Flames to do that

So I say the timing of the trade isn't lost on me and you go off on this condescending attempt at educating me on what ?

How I said nothing about the Flames being involved other than L.A shoring up their situation after some scoreboard watching.

.go annoy someone else with your BS.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The underlying shot rates are almost identical.

The chart I posted shows thay. Everything except for low danger shots against is within 0.5 shots per game of last year.

Clutch is just a different term for luck IMO.

Ok, you said rates and I thought you meant percentages. But fair enough. They've been trying to overcome worse shooting % by shooting more. It hasn't really worked. Chalk this all up to bad luck but I disagree. Both bad luck and reduced skill play into it. After all, shooting% and skill tend to be closely coorelated.

Medium Danger Goals/60 are significantly down from last year. One fewer goal per every 4 games might not seem like much, but over 60 games that's 15 fewer goals that you could have used at key times.

But at the end of the day goaltending has been the main problem with this team.

[SuperMatt18]

Personally I doubt LA making that trade tonight had anything to do with the Flames losing.

Probably more that it was the end of their own game - and another game where they had brutal goaltending.

[fire_starter]

All these trades going on while flames are floundering has me so down.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Locke

They lack a lot of things on top of finishing.

Starting with mental fortitude, skill, hockey IQ, leadership...I could go on and on.

I'm even starting to question if they lack fitness.

I mean...you can only completely collapse in the 3rd and lose in OT so many times on brainfarts or crappy goaltending before someone has to ask if you're so out of shape that maybe you're completely gassed by the end?

Its as good a theory as any.

Maybe thats why Sutter rolls the 4th line so much, because the top lines are out of gas?

Lindholm does now have the baby to go with his dad bod.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Man Derek wills is annoying to listen to

Yikes, what's he saying now?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

The record is 18. I doubt the Flames will get that many......I hope not

Never say never

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

So I say the timing of the trade isn't lost on me and you go off on this condescending attempt at educating me on what ?

How I said nothing about the Flames being involved other than L.A shoring up their situation after some scoreboard watching.

.go annoy someone else with your BS.

Saying the timing of the trade has anything to do with the Flames loss is not accurate...maybe even BS

They have been working on the deal for a while...Kings have been desperately searching for a goalie for months

maybe don't say ridiculous stuff if you don't want people to call you on it

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by wired

This team will be better next year. Selling now is not going to get us anything. Goal tending has bit the team in the ass really hard so far. Fist shot is a goal most games. Can’t play from behind.

Selling would definitely help in a very good draft. You may be right that next year they could be better, but you have to ask yourself the question, that even then, would this team be a contender? The answer in my opinion is no. We aren’t in the same league as the top teams.

Absolutely I think we could improve, especially with solid goaltending but we would be bounced in the first round. Time to sell, and rebuild with some elite talent. Ownership seems to think that fans would stay away from games if this was the path chosen. I disagree. I would support a team that has exciting pieces in the pipeline and continues to build the right away. Results often come faster than expected. Look what happened when Johnny, Monohan and Tkachuk joined the scene. They didn’t win a cup but there was a likeability factor and some exciting talent.

I believe fans would show patience and with some shrewd moves from the GM things could change quickly. Will ownership see things this way? Highly unlikely as they seem determined to get those home playoff games at all costs. But this version of the Flames is mediocre at best even with good goaltending.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

This is the best game Markstrom played all year. If you're looking for greenshoots, that's it. And I think it's a big deal.

If he can play the rest of the reason like he did tonight, the flames have a chance.

Who knows...maybe it was a very stressful pregnancy

They probably have to go 15-6 down the stretch. 72% win percentage.

It’s over. Just accept it. Figure out who isn’t in the long term plan and get what you can for them. Audition young guys like Zary and Wolf.

[FlamesPuck12]

That OT goal was “this guy scored” meme worthy.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

Selling would definitely help in a very good draft. You may be right that next year they could be better. But you have to ask yourself the question, that even then, would this team be a contender? The answer in my opinion is no. We aren’t in the same league as the top teams.

Absolutely I think we could be better, especially with solid goaltending but we would be bounced in the first round. Time to sell, and rebuild with some elite talent. Ownership seems to think that fans would stay away from games if this was the path chosen. I disagree. I would support a team that has exciting pieces in the pipeline and continues to build the right away. Results often come faster than expected. Look what happened when Johnny, Monohan and Tkachuk joined the scene. They didn’t win a cup but there was a likeability factor and some exciting talent.

I believe fans would show patience and with some shrewd moves from the GM things could change quickly. Will ownership see things this way? Highly unlikely as they seem determined to get those home playoff games at all costs. But this version of the Flames is mediocre at best even with good goaltending.

they usually don't...most of the non playoff teams have been bad for a while

[SuperMatt18]

Also the Zadorov play was a brain fart.

But that was a BS penalty call to make in that game when it was already 4 on 4.

100% an NHL game management call that impacts the outcome of a game.

[GioforPM]

A lot of finger pointing in a game where every single Flame but one was very good. Did some make a mistake once or twice in the game? Maybe, but overall they played their best game of the year. That includes Backlund despite his penalty (which was soft and which should have been evened up by a cross check to Mangiapane anyway). The OT goal was too bad, but the Flames had been unlucky not to end it earlier.

Vladar only lets in one stinker and Ullmark doesn’t have a post shot bounce right under his pad, this game is 4-1.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also the Zadorov play was a brain fart.

But that was a BS penalty call to make in that game when it was already 4 on 4.

100% an NHL game management call that impacts the outcome of a game.

And there was the clearest of cross checks on Mangiapane as he was trying to kill time by not touching the puck.

[expo2428]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Saying the timing of the trade has anything to do with the Flames loss is not accurate...maybe even BS

They have been working on the deal for a while...Kings have been desperately searching for a goalie for months

maybe don't say ridiculous stuff if you don't want people to call you on it

Seeing how korpisalo was announced he was sitting out so to a trade hours before the flames game even started makes it very comical that someone thinks the flames game was a reason he was traded lol

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A lot of finger pointing in a game where every single Flame but one was very good. Did some make a mistake once or twice in the game? Maybe, but overall they played their best game of the year. That includes Backlund despite his penalty (which was soft and which should have been evened up by a cross check to Mangiapane anyway). The OT goal was too bad, but the Flames had been unlucky not to end it earlier.

Vladar only lets in one stinker and Ullmark doesn’t have a post shot bounce right under his pad, this game is 4-1.

If only that's how playoff spots were determined..