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View Poll Results: Should Jay Feaster be fired?
Yes he's the head of the hockey department 445 60.30%
No one of his reports are in charge of details like this 107 14.50%
No the offers sheet wasn't effective so no loss to the team 186 25.20%
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:08 PM   #241
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They had his RFA rights. However, when the Avs matched the offer sheet, he ceased to be an RFA in the exact same way he would have ceased to be an RFA for the Flames (should you chose that interpretation). If the NHL is going to take that position, they should now apply it to the Avs.

Daly is acting totally inappropriately in making statements to the press about an unresolved legal issue. Flames management should consider a law suit. Daly is no way the be all and end all in interpreting this document. He's one of several parties invovled. He has no more authority to interpret the document than Feaster does.
Haha, a lawsuit, for what, publishing their interpretation of the CBA. The lawsuit angle worked out well when the Rangers sued the NHL.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:08 PM   #242
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Well it's now official. The Calgary Flames have officially joined the NY Islanders and Edmonton Oilers in the NHL hall of shame. At least the Young Guns years were brought on by a poor Canadian dollar, bad drafting and a lack of salary cap. Now they still draft bad and are simply embaressing themselves.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:10 PM   #243
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No, he would've been an Avalanche. They would have first dibs on the player they lost.

Just like if the Flames choose/chose to send McDonald down to Abby, the Wings would have first dibs.

So the Avs could have made out like bank robbers.

ROR, 1st, 3rd and a saved face.

+2.5M bonus already payed to ROR courtesy Calgary Flames.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:10 PM   #244
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This better not be the Flames excuse for holding onto Feaster.

Who really cares if anyone else knew? The Flames offered the contract so it's on them to make themselves aware of these things.
I'm willing to bet that's exactly what their excuse will be lol

I've definitely defended Feaster's work for this team in the past, and to be fair he has made some pretty decent tweaks to the team... however this could have been a disaster! Somebody's head needs to take the axe for the ignorance.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:10 PM   #245
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Yes, cause if it had gone thru...imagine losing 2 picks for nothing or having to pay a player to sit just so we don't lose him #DebacleofMonumentalProportions
Imagine how high our draft pick would be this year if this came to fruition. Thank god the Flames were up 3-0 and p,ssd off the Av's in thier own building last night..
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It's been about ten years now fellow Flames fans, but I think it's time to bust out the paper bags again.

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That's not what the CBA says:




The quote specifically says "on the Restricted Free Agency list". It does not say formlerly on the RFA list. O'Reilly has signed an offer sheet with the Avs. By the interpreation they're giving, he's no more on their RFA list than he would have been on ours.
How do you figure that. In what scenerio then, would an RFA be allowed to come back without clearing waivers first? Seems like a pointless line in your interpretation, since the moment the RFA signs he's no longer, technically, an RFA and therefore that exemption would never come into play.

Jay, you're grasping at straws.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:11 PM   #248
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I can't stand this, even the oilers are making fun of us!

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Old 03-01-2013, 12:11 PM   #249
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And to get him in the lineup ASAP. I have heard the trade deadline is going to be late February next year.
It's not, it's getting pushed back because of Sochi. The thoughts of Feaster cleverly pinning the Avs to the wall because it would be after next years trade deadline before they could move O'Reilly are false as well.
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That's not what the CBA says:




The quote specifically says "on the Restricted Free Agency list". It does not say formlerly on the RFA list. O'Reilly has signed an offer sheet with the Avs. By the interpreation they're giving, he's no more on their RFA list than he would have been on ours.
The more I read that quote the more confused I get.

I really want an official statement from somebody on this because I have a feeling nobody really knows the truth about how this would have worked yet.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:11 PM   #251
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Is it just me or would anyone else like to hear from OWNERSHIP and no I do not mean Ken King. Murray what say you on the state of the goodship Flames??
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And to get him in the lineup ASAP. I have heard the trade deadline is going to be late February next year.
It gave them a chance to beat the trade deadline, it could be in early March next season because of the Olympic break if NHLers go to the olympics again. But ya, there is a chance the Avs won't be able to trade him at all.
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It's not confirmed. Daly has no right to confirm anything. He represents one party to a contract.
And Feaster represents no parties to the contract, the CBA is an agreement between the NHL and the NHLPA. I would rather have someone who is an actual party to the contract commenting on the agreement than some random dude like Feaster
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Well it's now official. The Calgary Flames have officially joined the NY Islanders and Edmonton Oilers in the NHL hall of shame. At least the Young Guns years were brought on by a poor Canadian dollar, bad drafting and a lack of salary cap. Now they still draft bad and are simply embaressing themselves.
Now the Flames are hood rich.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:13 PM   #255
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That's not what the CBA says:




The quote specifically says "on the Restricted Free Agency list". It does not say formlerly on the RFA list. O'Reilly has signed an offer sheet with the Avs. By the interpreation they're giving, he's no more on their RFA list than he would have been on ours.
An offer sheet is not a Standard Player's Contract. He'd still be a Restricted Free Agent until the Avalanche decided whether to match or let the Flames sign him.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:14 PM   #256
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Ever since the underwear blogger comments, he lost all credibility in my opinion. It was not very "Presidential" and was a really stupid thing to say.

Can you imagine Holland, Lamorello(sp?), Gillis, Nonis, or anyone else saying that?
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:14 PM   #257
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I have defended Jay, and supported him, but he has failed to improve the team. He tries and hit home runs (Richards, ROR) but strikes out.

Time for a new direction.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:15 PM   #258
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I don't understand how there are 16 people so far that have voted for the third option?!? By your justification, because Colorado matched and we dodged the bullet, Feaster's oversight should be overlooked?? A mistake that could have lost us a first AND a third round pick for NOTHING in a very deep draft should be forgiven because the deal didn't actually go through? That's like saying attempted robbery is ok because it didn't actually happen.
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There have been plenty of days over the years where it's been painful to be a Flames fan. This is right up there but with much embarrassment added.

Feaster should go, as should anyone else involved in this decision. This organization has become a mess.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:15 PM   #260
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BTW, if COL didn't match and CGY got ROR, CGY would've been obligated to put him on waivers. No provision for paying him not to play.
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