[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by AC

The Flames posted some Weegar highlights and he posted a reply:


Hadn't updated his bio, but hopefully he's excited about the opportunity.

I know we worry about these things as fans, but I honestly do believe that most hockey players are the type of people who, when offered $56-64M, will say yes unless the situation is a complete tire fire.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

The Panthers Facebook "Thank you Huberdeau" post just came across my feed. They are not happy!
Tkachuk could end up a Gary Leeman if he doesn't perform.

I would do this...






if it happens.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by AC

The Flames posted some Weegar highlights and he posted a reply:


Hadn't updated his bio, but hopefully he's excited about the opportunity.

Haha, have we really become this thirsty for validation?

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well, whether people want to acknowledge it or not, Taxes are often a high net worth individual's single biggest expense.

Especially when those individuals are employees rather than business owners with less flexibility in terms of Tax planning.

Walsh is correct in asserting that there are tax-deferral methods available to high net worth employees in this case, what he neglects to mention is the costs involved in those methods. They are complex and expensive to establish and furthermore to defer that tax one also needs to defer the income.

So if you want the house, cars, jewelry, etc. you're going to need your money so it isnt as simple as just getting all your pay and smoothing out your tax liability over time, there are opportunity costs as well.

So yeah, lower tax jurisdictions are certainly going to have an advantage.



He's going to be competing for attention with Kodak Black and that man puts on a show...

As long as your wife doesn't get you a Huberdeau or Weegar jersey we should be fine...regardless of tax implications.

[AC]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Haha, have we really become this thirsty for validation?

Given recent events and the immediate talk of both Huberdeau and Weegar needing new contracts... Seems notable that he posted something positive about joining a new team.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Haha, have we really become this thirsty for validation?

Yes

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Lol Tkachuk could never be Leeman who became a single digit scorer right after the trade

Yeah, there's only 1 Gary Leeman.

Tkachuk is a good player so it won't go like that, but what I meant is I could see it going negative quickly if he doesn't keep up top 10 in the league type performances.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Muta

I've always thought that the 'weather' excuse is lame, and one of the most annoying arguments in pro sports. I understand players can play anywhere, and that's totally fine, that's their right; but northern climates aren't the hell that people constantly make them out to be.

Who is choosing Winnipeg over Anaheim if they have no ties to either city and the money is equal in both?

If your place of employment said you can transfer to Nunavut or San Diego, where would you go?

I think the city and the weather are big factors for players.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I don’t think there is an American equivalent of a RCA though (in terms of how much you can put in the tax deferral account). If you are doing tax planning for an individual who is going to make 99% of their income before age 35 and expects to live to their 80’s and needs to retain a certain lifestyle for the 45+ years they are not making good money it is a pretty good vehicle. If you make 50 million Canadian, you could amortize that to 600K Canadian a year over 60 years you could get your income tax down to about 40% a year, which would be comparable with US jurisdictions (assuming they do not have a similar vehicle to a RCA).

Yeah it’s a good solution for these situations, no question. It’s undoubtedly a good idea for professional athletes because they aren’t always planning for their future after sports, which this also solves. If anything, a lower tax regime, like Alberta, makes these scenarios work a lot better than other places where the tax burden is higher.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Muta

I've always thought that the 'weather' excuse is lame, and one of the most annoying arguments in pro sports. I understand players can play anywhere, and that's totally fine, that's their right; but northern climates aren't the hell that people constantly make them out to be.

Miami will sink into the sea with global warming. Better to stay at high altitudes!

[Gaudreau4Life]

Zadorov already following both on IG. Good to see.

My username does not hold true anymore…

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by troutman

Miami will sink into the sea with global warming. Better to stay at high altitudes!

Yeah sometimes during his 8 yrs contract.

He will beg the Flames to take him back

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau4Life

Zadorov already following both on IG. Good to see.

My username does not hold true anymore…

Captain Zadorov

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau4Life

Zadorov already following both on IG. Good to see.

My username does not hold true anymore…

KneelbeforeZad would be good.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You can't keep saying this after the Flames just picked up a 115 pt. player. Besides, these things never work out so precisely. Even if one of Gaudreau's or Tkachuk's offense is not completely replaced, a huge percentage of it will be just by plugging the hole with a player who will not fin8sh the season with 0 pts.


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Well, it is true. But what I am saying a lot is that the Flames have essentially added one Huberdeau and subtracted. I’m not confident in Huberdeau’s ability to generate anything close to 115 points without a high end RW and therefore, that would lead to an overall regression in team goals and very likely, less wins as well. So IMO, it’s vital the team adds a top line RW.

[flamesrule_kipper34]

Good sign about Weegar.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1551186926971002887

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by flamesrule_kipper34

Good sign about Weegar.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1551186926971002887

Wee garner find out how true that is if he re-ups!

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Bingo

And you can frame it however you want.

I see it step by step.

Gaudreau was lost. Tkachuk wanted out. He made an asset gaining transaction.

Happy they lost Gaudreau? No
Happy they won this trade? Yes

They don't have to be connected into one package for me.

I get that, but it’s very much connected to me. I’m not necessarily ragging on the pieces of the trade specifically, more so the direction of the trade. Like I said, I would’ve preferred the team go the route of trading for young A+ prospects who could’ve turned into franchise players for a decade +

I do understand at the very least, Huberdeau and Weager could be moved for additional pieces which would contribute to the overall picture. Altogether, the fear still remains that the players could play out the year, end up with a quick playoff exit and be lost to free agency with the team ending up with very little to show for Matthew Tkachuk. But that would be the worst case scenario.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Muta

I've always thought that the 'weather' excuse is lame, and one of the most annoying arguments in pro sports. I understand players can play anywhere, and that's totally fine, that's their right; but northern climates aren't the hell that people constantly make them out to be.

Most people that think that Florida has great weather haven't really spent much time in Florida.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Most people that think the weather is Florida has great weather hasn't really spent much time in Florida.

It’s very hot and humid in the summer
And you have hurricane season

Still I prefer Florida over Alberta but I am a tropical guy