Who Are You Voting For (2021 Edition)?

[Monahammer]

This is the most Kodos vs Kang i've ever felt about it. I have a degree in Political Science.

[InglewoodFan]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

seriously? nothing that the Liberals did in the last 6 years caused pause?

This is a good example of why the Liberals are going to win, even if it's another minority.

Most people don't care about ethics and corruption unless it directly affects them.

I take your point here, but I wonder if it is simply a case of the devil you know? O'Toole has made great strides to come across as more prime ministerial than Scheer, but then he does things like taking a socially conservative stand on abortion. That pushes some folks that were warming up to him away. Plus he has more baggage of wingnuts in his party than Trudeau does in my opinion.

It may simply be a matter of people acknowledge that the Liberals aren't ideal but the CPC hasn't done enough to smooth off their rough edges.

Plus, let's face it - Harper had his share of scandals and corruption. To me, they are all the same, get a bit a power and they can't control themselves.

[The Fisher Account]

Pretty hard not to give Trudeau and the Liberals any credit for Canada's vaccination strategy and roll-out.

Probably saved tens of thousands of lives.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

Pretty hard not to give Trudeau and the Liberals any credit for Canada's vaccination strategy and roll-out.

Probably saved tens of thousands of lives.

That might be true, but what has he done to militate against the next pandemic?

We can't make enough vaccines or PPE in this country any more, two years in something should be underway to fix that.

What have we taken from C19 experience and applied to early warning and/or emergency agencies.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by BeltlineFan

Taking out your frustration on me isn't the best use of your energy, I already voted.

I know. I'm hoping you can explain why nothing the liberals did over the last 6 years outweighed the fact you might get cheaper childcare sometime in the next 5 years.

not that you have to, but I figure if people are going to be open about their vote they'd be open to explaining why.

as for a candidate coming to my door, I take that as a negative in a pandemic.

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

That might be true, but what has he done to militate against the next pandemic?

This is a pretty good start:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fed...mrna-1.6031024

The federal government today announced a $200-million investment to help a Mississauga, Ont.-based company build a plant that can churn out millions of mRNA vaccines.

[kermitology]

I'm in BC, so my incumbent is NDP.

Conservative - this is like promoting the UCP to the Federal level. I shudder at what a CPC led government would have done during the pandemic.. basically Kenney level ####ups. Plus they're more interested in the economy than the future of our planet. Irresponsible to vote for them IMO.

Liberal - I don't have a major issue with them, but I'm a little tired of what I'm kind of thinking as lip-service to things that I care about, like wealth redistribution and the environment.

Green - They're a party in disarray. Non-starter. Did they even come up with a platform for this election?

PPC - I'm not a racist, xenophobic, or crazy.

NDP it is.. I'm frustrated that the platform isn't costed out, but I'm a big supporter of things like $10/day daycare, which was originally from the NDP platform, and I'd like to see something different than Liberal/Conservative.

[BeltlineFan]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I know. I'm hoping you can explain why nothing the liberals did over the last 6 years outweighed the fact you might get cheaper childcare sometime in the next 5 years.

not that you have to, but I figure if people are going to be open about their vote they'd be open to explaining why.

as for a candidate coming to my door, I take that as a negative in a pandemic.

People clearly prioritize things differently. You're talking about Trudeau's SNC-Lavelin thing? I don't even know because it doesn't bother me. If he did something illegal the justice system will deal with it. And yes half priced daycare next year is much more important to me than some ongoing legal thing for Trudeau. If he goes to jail someone else will take over, doesn't matter to me. Nothing else the liberals did over the last 6 years stands out as being a political atrocity to me.

If you want to take a candidate coming to your door as a negative then don't vote for the ones that do. I took it as a positive.

The conservatives don't have a cheaper daycare plan, a bad leader, bad social policies, and a ton of nutjobs. I like the NDP but they are totally anti-pipeline which doesn't suit me hence the liberal vote.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by BeltlineFan

People clearly prioritize things differently. You're talking about Trudeau's SNC-Lavelin thing?

One of many, many, many scandels, yes

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

Pretty hard not to give Trudeau and the Liberals any credit for Canada's vaccination strategy and roll-out.

Probably saved tens of thousands of lives.

Trudeau still needs to go. Ideally in a Liberal minority but i don't think they will kick him out with that.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by BeltlineFan

People clearly prioritize things differently. You're talking about Trudeau's SNC-Lavelin thing? I don't even know because it doesn't bother me.

See, people think that the CPC is the "FY,GM" party but it's really not party-specific.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I'm in BC, so my incumbent is NDP.

Conservative - this is like promoting the UCP to the Federal level. I shudder at what a CPC led government would have done during the pandemic.. basically Kenney level ####ups. Plus they're more interested in the economy than the future of our planet. Irresponsible to vote for them IMO.

Liberal - I don't have a major issue with them, but I'm a little tired of what I'm kind of thinking as lip-service to things that I care about, like wealth redistribution and the environment.

Green - They're a party in disarray. Non-starter. Did they even come up with a platform for this election?

PPC - I'm not a racist, xenophobic, or crazy.

NDP it is.. I'm frustrated that the platform isn't costed out, but I'm a big supporter of things like $10/day daycare, which was originally from the NDP platform, and I'd like to see something different than Liberal/Conservative.

National Default Party is accurate for this election.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by btimbit

One of many, many, many scandels, yes

Is four considered "many, many, many"?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Is four considered "many, many, many"?

The SNC donations, then the SNC coverup, the Aga Khan thing, the Mark Norman trial, the Blackface thing, the WE Charity mess, I could go on with more "minor" things like groping and repeated examples of sexism, but I don't want to sound like the National Post, haha

We are talking about a guy that has broken multiple ethics rules, numerous times.

Look I'd gladly vote Liberal again if they had a different leader, but that party needs a loss so they clean house

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by BeltlineFan

People clearly prioritize things differently. You're talking about Trudeau's SNC-Lavelin thing? I don't even know because it doesn't bother me. If he did something illegal the justice system will deal with it.

The SNC thing is literally Trudeau undermining the justice system though.

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by CPK80

I also am worried about how O'Toole especially recently has been saying that he is going to give more power to the provinces, especially around social topics. Which makes me very warry of what the UCP would attempt with a federal conservative government.

If I was considering the Conservatives, this statement would have immediately changed my vote. Jason Kenney is doing enough damage as it it, without giving him more power.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

The SNC thing is literally Trudeau undermining the justice system though.

Its not about undermining the Justice system...this is the crux of the matter, Trudeau simply feels that the Justice System doesn't apply to him or the Liberal party.

That is the problem.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by btimbit

The SNC donations, then the SNC coverup, the Aga Khan thing, the Mark Norman trial, the Blackface thing, the WE Charity mess, I could go on with more "minor" things like groping and repeated examples of sexism, but I don't want to sound like the National Post, haha

We are talking about a guy that has broken multiple ethics rules, numerous times.

Look I'd gladly vote Liberal again if they had a different leader, but that party needs a loss so they clean house

I'm just being pedantic. I agree Trudeau needs to go but the social conservatives in the CPC need to go more so I can't vote for them.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

One of the biggest things that ALL parties miss, is that every riding is winnable.

They need to find the right candidate. The campaign should be for identifying support and getting them to the polls.

It's NOT a time to introduce a candidate, they should already have a level of familiarity with the candidate.

Hey the "insert party here" candidate is prominent accountant that advertises on billboards across the city, or is popular city counselor.

All that aside:

Not answering the question in the thread title but my decision isn't 100%, and a complicated mess of federal party leaders, policy and local candidates and balancing what's best for me.

All that said, Green and Marxist-Lenninist are currently on the table (but in fairness, a good buddy of mine hooked up with the ML candidate and if I don't vote for any of the major parties, I'd like to see the ML beat the PPC).

[Manhattanboy]

Just voted CON but am resigned to the fact that Gerald Butts will still be prime minister come next Tuesday.