[Rumour] Teams calling Flames with interest in Kadri

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

That's a heck of a 'what if' situation.

The Flames don't have that many more players they'd retain on to trade at this stage.

Weegar -> doubt they'd need to, or would want to.
Huberdeau -> even with retention, I don't think this contract moves
Coleman -> perhaps?
Andersson -> at $4.55...maybe?

They've got Marky eating a slot for 2 years.
Kadri eating one for 5 years?

Still one there to use on expiring deals or on a massive package.

You want the ability to retain salary as a 3rd team in a trade for a player who never plays for you, so you can’t just look at the current roster.

Locking up a retention slot for next 5 years needs to return value for each of the 5 years you are doing it.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You want the ability to retain salary as a 3rd team in a trade for a player who never plays for you, so you can’t just look at the current roster.

Locking up a retention slot for next 5 years needs to return value for each of the 5 years you are doing it.

Exactly. And there is very little chance that you would actually get good enough value to warrant doing it

[GreenLantern2814]

Francis just mentioned three guys who could have requested a trade at the end of the season - Kadri, Weegar and Coleman.

Of those three, the only one who has a legit “this isn’t what I signed up for” gripe is Coleman.

The other two signed here knowing there was a high chance it would fail spectacularly.

So if Coleman is traded at some point, I won’t be suprised.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Francis just mentioned three guys who could have requested a trade at the end of the season - Kadri, Weegar and Coleman.

Of those three, the only one who has a legit “this isn’t what I signed up for” gripe is Coleman.

The other two signed here knowing there was a high chance it would fail spectacularly.

So if Coleman is traded at some point, I won’t be suprised.

Kadri does as well. Remember when gaudreau and Tkachuk left and everyone thought Kadri and Huberdeau would make us a better team?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

[timun]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

The camp who basically want everyone traded, are you going to still buy tickets this coming season knowing how bad the team is going to be if we trade everyone with any value? Flames could conceivabley as bad as San Jose last season.

You're insinuating I would want to buy tickets with no one traded. Save the Kipper jersey retirement night, I was already checked out last season by mid-February-ish.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Kadri does as well. Remember when gaudreau and Tkachuk left and everyone thought Kadri and Huberdeau would make us a better team?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

I don’t know how many people thought we’d be better.

I think it was more “maybe Kadri and Huberdeau can keep us more or less where we were as a consistent playoff team”.

Which was daft then, and daft now, but… you know. Treliving and Edwards.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

update:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1806756585533809048

Sorry..what, not in a full tear down?

Zadorov out, Lindholm out, Hanifin out, Tanev out, Mangiapane out, Markstrom out...

If this isn't a full tear down then what is? lol

They've replaced those key players with overaged prospects and reclamation projects..

The last turn off before full tear down was before Markstrom and Mangiapane were shipped. And even then, a quick pivot or retool was questionable.

[Toonage]

I read that tweet as Dreger carrying the mail for the Flames and letting teams know the offers aren't good enough

[devo22]

it's a "pay up" message for sure.

and as for the "full tear down" ... potato, potato. I don't care how the Flames want to label this, the trades speak for themselves.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by devo22

it's a "pay up" message for sure.

and as for the "full tear down" ... potato, potato. I don't care how the Flames want to label this, the trades speak for themselves.

“There are no American troops in Baghdad”

[Vinny01]

Outside of Markstrom the Flames have not traded a player who isn’t a pending UFA and they moved Markstrom to get what hopefully is 2 long term pieces and they have a top 5 goalie prospect in hockey. It is a forced tear down because players do not want to sign for what the Flames offered them as they do not want to go long term with older vets but were willing to go 8 years with Lindholm and Hanifin.

[Ped]

Sure, but that 8 year offer was at the beginning of the season. Players said no, team didn't play well, out you go. A forced rebuild is still a rebuild, and is a lot better than actively resisting a rebuild.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You want the ability to retain salary as a 3rd team in a trade for a player who never plays for you, so you can’t just look at the current roster.

Locking up a retention slot for next 5 years needs to return value for each of the 5 years you are doing it.

It also kills a lot of the benefit of getting short term free agents to sell at the deadline if you have reduced retention spaces.

[AustinL_NHL]

Frank just stomping TFP into the ground, indirectly calling him a Joe Schmoe with his report lol

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Frank just stomping TFP into the ground, indirectly calling him a Joe Schmoe with his report lol

Plot twist: he's really just describing himself.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If this isn't a full tear down then what is? lol

Trading multiple players that still have term left. Markstrom is the only one fitting that description. And there's multiple reasons why they traded him.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Outside of Markstrom the Flames have not traded a player who isn’t a pending UFA and they moved Markstrom to get what hopefully is 2 long term pieces and they have a top 5 goalie prospect in hockey. It is a forced tear down because players do not want to sign for what the Flames offered them as they do not want to go long term with older vets but were willing to go 8 years with Lindholm and Hanifin.

Markstrom was the biggest piece to keep them pretending to be competitive

[Goriders]

If Kadri gets traded for more magic beans The flames wilk turn into arizona. they’ll have to take on shea weber and carey price to get to the cap floor.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Goriders

If Kadri gets traded for more magic beans The flames wilk turn into arizona. they’ll have to take on shea weber and carey price to get to the cap floor.

The Flames should be looking into taking on a bad contract or two for the next two years to gain the most assets possible.

The team literally has 29 million to spend, weaponize this to the max.

[Goriders]

I’d offer mcdavid $29 million to ditch the grease and come this year.