View Poll Results: Reaction to the trade?
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06-19-2024, 10:31 AM
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#181
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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06-19-2024, 10:31 AM
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#182
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Nm
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06-19-2024, 10:31 AM
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#183
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Can we use the pick as offer sheet compensation?
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06-19-2024, 10:31 AM
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#184
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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So Flames are not retaining salary, right?
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06-19-2024, 10:31 AM
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#185
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Wonder how much the retention is.
Hopefully it's only a small amount.
If it's close to max retention, it changes the outlook of the deal big time.
edit:
over 30%... ouch.
Probably around 2 million retention. Feels like we should of got a little more.
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06-19-2024, 10:32 AM
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#187
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
What's the protection? If it's top 10 (not likely) it then becomes an unprotected 2026?
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yes someone please clarify.
Need Vegas to suck next year and the Devils to suck the year after.
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06-19-2024, 10:32 AM
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#188
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
We should have asked for the Devil's ECHL goalie in return.
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Would've been fine with me. No reason to light $18M on fire like we did the first 3 years.
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06-19-2024, 10:32 AM
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#189
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Franchise Player
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Flames retain $2M?
Ah, this gets a bit more mediocre. Surprised they didn't get more value.
I find it hard to believe the offer at the deadline was worse than this.
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06-19-2024, 10:32 AM
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#190
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by kukkudo
Is this the best they could get? The top 10 protected makes this deal meh.
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People get too hung up on top 10 protection. If the Devils finish in the top 10 in 2025 and the pick gets bumped, they are pretty likely to do the same the next year.
But the Devils with Markstrom probably will at least make the POs, so it's moot. And 10OA this year was always a long shot.
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06-19-2024, 10:32 AM
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#191
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Salary retained...still like it though but had reasonable expectations all along
Interested in Bahl, Conroy clearly like big.
If Kylington re-signs, time to trade Andersson? Getting harder for guys like Soloyov, Grushnikov or Porier to make the team?
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06-19-2024, 10:32 AM
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#192
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Official:
https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/devi...algary-release
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The New Jersey Devils announced today that the team has acquired goaltender Jacob Markstrom from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Kevin Bahl and New Jersey’s first-round selection in the 2025 NHL Draft (top-10 protected). Calgary will be retaining 31.25% of Markstrom’s remaining contract, which after this season, has two years left on a six-year, $36,000,000 ($6,000,000 average annual value) deal originally signed with the Flames on October 9, 2020. The cap hit for those remaining two years will be $4,125,000. The announcement was made by President/General Manager Tom Fitzgerald.
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06-19-2024, 10:33 AM
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#193
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Lifetime Suspension
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Markstrom is 34 going on 35. This is a pretty good return. I have used the Mike Smith multiple times as an example of what to expect. That got a 3rd we got a 1st top 10 protected whatever and a decent prospect it looks like.
Some people had unrealistic expectations.
This is a great return. Just a 1st would have been great.
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06-19-2024, 10:33 AM
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#194
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reign of Fire
So Flames are not retaining salary, right?
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Flames are retaining 2M I believe
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06-19-2024, 10:33 AM
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#195
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
A year ago I was hoping to give Markstrom away for free. He has been completely inconsistent between seasons during his 4 years in Calgary.
Would not be surprised to see him have another bad season next year.
Getting a 1st rounder for a 34 year old goaltender is a win for me.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Easy with the “we” talk.
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What, Ashasx and I? That’s a “we”
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06-19-2024, 10:33 AM
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#196
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I wonder if they went after Bahl because negotiations with Kylington aren't working out
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Doubtful...I hope it means Andersson indicated he wants to move / won't re-sign
The 1st is an acceptable return. I would have loved the 10th OV pick this year but that's always unlikely (especially without full retention or moving pick 41)
But if you can get a top 20 pick next year and Bahl that's still a great return for a guy we thought was unmovable at this time last year.
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06-19-2024, 10:33 AM
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#197
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by The Professor
Does this play into the Monahan conditions? Highest of all three 2025 1st’s (unless top ten)? Or is it still ours or FLA’s?
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No. The conditions of the Monahan trade specifically identify Calgary and Florida's picks. They don't reference any other 1sts the Flames may acquire.
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06-19-2024, 10:34 AM
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#198
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Markstrom is 34 going on 35. This is a pretty good return. I have used the Mike Smith multiple times as an example of what to expect. That got a 3rd we got a 1st top 10 protected whatever and a decent prospect it looks like.
Some people had unrealistic expectations.
This is a great return. Just a 1st would have been great.
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I think everyone needs this reminder. He's certainly an NHL goalie but age is becoming a factor and he wont be around when the flames are ready to compete.
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06-19-2024, 10:34 AM
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#199
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I reported back at the deadline the offer was a 2025 1st protected and Holtz, I believe the Flames substituted Bahl here as they value him more and didn't really want another winger. That's a solid return for Markstrom.
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It's ok. Not a home run but a decent return.
What happens if they do land in the top 10? I mean at some point something has to convey so I'm wondering what the details on that are?
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06-19-2024, 10:34 AM
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#200
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
What's the protection? If it's top 10 (not likely) it then becomes an unprotected 2026?
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Isn't that how protection always works (unless they have to jump a year because the pick's gone)?
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