Bill Peters' open apology to Treliving. UPD: Aliu responds

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Well, if other subsequent allegations of a similar nature are forthcoming, then it doesn't really matter what he says in any letter he writes. He also said it was an "isolated incident", so if something else comes out he's a liar no matter what.

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

I don't get the blink. He's a lawyer and has written these types of letters before for clients.

That guy is a lawyer?? Well then, apply my blinking face to that revelation instead.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

. Even though I want him gone, it isn’t my money so I don’t care if he gets severance. I can hardly fault the guy for following the legal process.

I kind of do, not even in a vindictive sense, but just from a hockey operations point of view. Flames ownership has reportedly become less and less okay with dead money as Treviling's career progresses, and three coaching hires in his tenure (soon to be a fourth) is likely a sticking point.

A full payout and a non-payout or something in between could very well be the difference between an allowance for a well known, experienced coach and another average to bargain hire.

[sureLoss]

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
One discrepancy in Bill Peters' statement: Peters said he "immediately returned to the dressing room to apologize to the team." As we reported Tuesday, Akim Aliu said he met with Peters after captain Jake Dowell confronted the coach then - but Aliu said Peters never apologized.

[jayswin]

But I'm hoping that is moot and Geoff Ward finishes the season strong and turns into a found gem.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I kind of do, not even in a vindictive sense, but just from a hockey operations point of view. Flames ownership has reportedly become less and less okay with dead money as Treviling's career progresses, and three coaching hires on his tenure (soon to be a fourth) is likely a sticking point.

A full payout and a non-payout or something in between could very well be the difference between an allowance for well known, experienced coach and another average to bargain hire.

I meant from a moral standpoint. Not from the perspective of icing a winning team.

[gamesaver]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Good legal advice
Bad PR advice

Which illustrates where his priorities are right now.
He knows he's done. He's trying to walk away with as much $$$ as he can- knowing he won't get another job that pays nearly as much ever again.

He is probably done coaching in NA, but still has some opportunities in the KHL. As someone already mentioned, they won't see this incident as an issue, sadly.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
One discrepancy in Bill Peters' statement: Peters said he "immediately returned to the dressing room to apologize to the team." As we reported Tuesday, Akim Aliu said he met with Peters after captain Jake Dowell confronted the coach then - but Aliu said Peters never apologized.

That’s not a discrepancy, it’s an alternate take on the events. A discrepancy implies indisputable fact.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I meant from a moral standpoint. Not from the perspective of icing a winning team.

Yeah, my post was kind of springboarding off that sentence, rather then addresses the meat of your post. Sorry, just went off on something I had wanted to speak to at some point and there was the opening.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well now I'm confused, because he very adamantly says in the apology letter that he went into the locker room afterwords and apologized.

Would he blatantly lie about something like that when it could easily be corroborated by the 20 other guys that were in the locker room at the time?

And before you say he would, think that he obviously had his lawyers help him write this.

Something stinks here.

I said make amends so I don't think we even need to get into a technicality of who's lying. Going into the lockerroom to apologize to the entire team is not making amends to Aliu, (especially when he's drafting up a letter to have him sent down...). Not when Aliu still apparently has a very reasonable grudge a decade later.

Even a personal apology isn't making amends in this situation. Not given the outcome. If he wanted to make amends for his actions, he should have done something to try and really make amends, explain the situation to Bowman, bring in some type of conflict management expert, but instead it appears he tried to relieve himself of the "problem child" instead of trying to fix the situation that was so clearly broken by him. And in doing so he could have ruined Aliu's career.

Even if you buy into Peters bs, he's saying he's regretted actions since then. So what has he done in the last 10 years to make up for it to Aliu? I'll await confirmation that Peters has tried to contact and apologize to Aliu several times as anyone else who has regretted their actions but I have a feeling I will be waiting awhile.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Well, if other subsequent allegations of a similar nature are forthcoming, then it doesn't really matter what he says in any letter he writes. He also said it was an "isolated incident", so if something else comes out he's a liar no matter what.

That guy is a lawyer?? Well then, apply my blinking face to that revelation instead.

Isolated doesn't mean no other instance.

I just don't think adding anything else is worth it. This is a timestamp rebuttal imo.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I can only imagine how angry BT is about that letter.
He's being cool in front of the media, but I suspect he's BOILING underneath.

All sorts of things wrong with the letter, but the cherry on top is sending it WHILE THE GUYS YOU JUST WERE COACHING ARE TRYING TO GET A WIN

Brutal Bill. Eff off.

I thought maybe it was an attempt to get Flames media/fans eyes on it? I mean it was still at the forefront of everyone's minds

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Probably something to do with being spotted earlier today with legal representation

Coming out of the NHLPA's offices from what i understand. A place that, literally, is full of lawyers as well.

[shogged]

took less than a day for people to corroborate the statement made by aliu, so if peters did return to the dressing room to apologize as he states, we should hear about that soon

[Elkyiv]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Yes. To the player(s) directly and immediately, not 10 years later when guys had to call you out on it

He claims to have done that in his letter, and even if true, I somehow doubt it moves the needle on this.

[Peaceful Warrior]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Because he's not sorry he did it. He's sorry he's losing him job from it.

Call a black man a ######, and you don't even apologize to him directly? That's not a good apologize, or showing immediate remorse.

I haven't been following this whole ordeal minute by minute -- has it now come out that Peter's called Aliu a ######? I thought that he said to turn off the ###### music?

Neither is acceptable, but there is a difference between using the unacceptable term to describe the music and directly calling a specific human being of colour a ########, and if you didn't direct it specifically at someone, you probably don't owe them a direct apology.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Serious: What does a person do to atone from this? Can they ever regain respect from the general populace?

If I was Bill Peters, I would be in a pretty dark place right now. Your livelihood is likely (rightfully) gone. What do you do? Live out the rest of your life in solitude?

Coach in the KHL

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

That’s not a discrepancy, it’s an alternate take on the events. A discrepancy implies indisputable fact.

No, discrepancy means difference or lack of compatibility between two accounts.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

It’s still not strange that he has his side of the story. I guess if some players come out and say he never apologized it might signal that he was lying for the sake of trying to maximize his severance. In that case I’d say he’s deserves a ton of criticism. Or he knows that it turns his side into being more sympathetic and becomes a he said/he said story and not so cut and dry as it seemed.

Given the involvement of a legal team, my guess is they are trying to tread very carefully which is why I say it is an important detail to note that he said he apologized for the incident 10 years ago when his accuser is saying he didn't.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Feels written by his lawyers. Please sign at the bottom.

Of course it was. That’s why you hire them.


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[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Peaceful Warrior

I haven't been following this whole ordeal minute by minute -- has it now come out that Peter's called Aliu a ######? I thought that he said to turn off the ###### music?

Neither is acceptable, but there is a difference between using the unacceptable term to describe the music and directly calling a specific human being of colour a ########, and if you didn't direct it specifically at someone, you probably don't owe them a direct apology.

Sadly, that's probably his idiotic angle (in no way is that directed at you PW)