Alberta Politics Thread

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

You're opinion means nothing, you've proven that you have no sense of the subject.

I'm done debating with idiots.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[2Stonedbirds]

...aaaaand here come the pretzles!

[CaptainCrunch]

yeah, I can't believe I wasted my time with someone who doesn't know the difference between an environmental regulatory agency and a public sector union.

I think someone's mother tied the bib a little too tight around his neck when she was feeding him pudding this morning.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Locke

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Some idiots provide entertainment, much like the jesters of yesteryear. When they are both stupid and humourless... I guess the ignore list is the only choice.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

...aaaaand here come the pretzles!

The kids are calling them Whitey Wackers.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I think you and I both know which extreme the reality will fall closer to though.

He doesn't deal or live in reality though.

[VladtheImpaler]

Pretty disappointing really - I hoped they might show some pragmatism (because, you know, it's cool to stay in power), but they are all idiots and so are all their supporters. Have not seen the exception to that theorem yet. Like, ****, don't you want to win another election?

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by Locke

Sorry man, the constant grind is getting tiring.



Theres too much idealism running rampant while ignoring realism. Where is all of this deficit spending going to come from? Who is paying this nice, juicy bill when it gets served up? No one knows and moreover no one seems to care.



Is there any Province in this country thats afloat? That has even a balanced budget?

It's tough to keep pounding on the same drum, I get that.

The model is broken. Not just for the public sector pensions etc., but for CPP as a whole. My parents generation created the greatest Ponzi scheme in history, and are going to leave us to foot the bill.

The only place I take exception is when Teachers are targeted directly. Front line workers in general really. They provide a critical service to society and are repeatedly raked over the coals.

I fully agree reforms need to occur. I personally think that public unions need to get rid of a great deal of administrative bloat and make smarter capital allocation choices. But good luck with that one.

Pensions need to be addressed as well. DB plans are notoriously susceptible to demographic changes.

So yea. I don't know how to fix it at this point. The muppets in Edmonton aren't making it easier, I just really hope they don't manage to set us back 40 years as a result of a protest vote.


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[robaur]

I've given up on this thread. ppl like CaptainCrunch is what is wrong with today's politics. Act like they know everything. Met plenty of people like that when I was in university.....actually I remember going into a meeting a couple of years ago when I was looking for lease space to expand my business and some MBA grad was trying to sell me his computer model and acting all smart....I laughed at his numbers and said wait until the Oil correction comes.....and walked out of his office.

Today...CaptainCrunch...has reminded me of that guy.....so again I laugh at the stupid, ignorant, and clueless opinions being posted...which might be good in an ideal, textbook setting but have no space in the real word.

And... Mr. Locke....Yes...taxes have increased....but holy batman....they increased from 10% to 12%. OMG!!! How is business supposed to survive??!!!

give me a break. the increases in taxes are insignificant at best...and I'm impacted by all of them. I'll even go on record to say that this province needs a Sales Tax as well........but what do I know?!! I haven't taken a economics course in my life...lol.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by robaur

I've given up on this thread. ppl like CaptainCrunch is what is wrong with today's politics. Act like they know everything.

The best part of this post is that you don't realize just how much of a hypocrite you are.

[Cyclops]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The best part of this post is that you don't realize just how much of a hypocrite you are.

Seems everyone knows how to fix Alberta, a computer geek that knows everything from pipelines to politics to union negotiations and what's best for professions he has zero idea about. Then everyone swinging from his nut sack hoping to get his/her approval. Then there is an accountant that is against yeachers getting paid a decent wage aND seems to know every thing in regards to that...but as soon as someone voices an opinion that goes against their ideology that person is an idiot....Hypocrisy is running rampant for sure, but you are looking in the wrong direction.

You guys/girls and definitely pre and post ops are hilarious.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Seems everyone knows how to fix Alberta, a computer geek that knows everything from pipelines to politics to union negotiations and what's best for professions he has zero idea about. Then everyone swinging from his nut sack hoping to get his/her approval. Then there is an accountant that is against yeachers getting paid a decent wage aND seems to know every thing in regards to that...but as soon as someone voices an opinion that goes against their ideology that person is an idiot....Hypocrisy is running rampant for sure, but you are looking in the wrong direction.

You guys/girls and definitely pre and post ops are hilarious.

You're right, we should all follow you and robaur's shining examples.

Lead the way!

[puffnstuff]

This really is one of my favorite things...a battle of wits, against the unarmed.

[PsYcNeT]

This must be that hyper-left wing CalgaryPuck I've been reading about.

Why anyone would ever call this place a talking-points echo chamber I have no idea.

[Resolute 14]

I'm curious, Cyclops. What are your qualifications to speak? Given you are basically arguing that a "computer geek" and an accountant have no right to an opinion, where do you derive your rights from?

[Tinordi]

Lets get back to calling posters hypocrites when you have nothing left of substance to argue. That's an old favourite.

[CaptainCrunch]

nm, not worth responding too.

[peter12]

I am a licensed political scientist with over 10 years working in politics, and I endorse Resolute and Locke's views!

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

It's tough to keep pounding on the same drum, I get that.

The model is broken. Not just for the public sector pensions etc., but for CPP as a whole. My parents generation created the greatest Ponzi scheme in history, and are going to leave us to foot the bill.

The only place I take exception is when Teachers are targeted directly. Front line workers in general really. They provide a critical service to society and are repeatedly raked over the coals.

I fully agree reforms need to occur. I personally think that public unions need to get rid of a great deal of administrative bloat and make smarter capital allocation choices. But good luck with that one.

Pensions need to be addressed as well. DB plans are notoriously susceptible to demographic changes.

So yea. I don't know how to fix it at this point. The muppets in Edmonton aren't making it easier, I just really hope they don't manage to set us back 40 years as a result of a protest vote.


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I have often wondered, in regards to the golden parachute pensions, how much less of a burden it would be to drop that percentage that calculates the pension. Right now it is a percentage of the average salary of the last five years. I wonder if you drop it 1% to 5% to compensate for the higher than average salary. Changing the model may be difficult so maybe just start tweaking it.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Locke

Theres too much idealism running rampant while ignoring realism. Where is all of this deficit spending going to come from? Who is paying this nice, juicy bill when it gets served up? No one knows and moreover no one seems to care.

Is there any Province in this country thats afloat? That has even a balanced budget?

I'm not even sure it's idealism. We are facing massive, apparently intractable public finance deficits in an era of stagnating economies and relentless demographic atrophy. The math is terrifying. So people ignore the math, either because they're innumerate (which covers most voters) or because they'd simply prefer not to think about how this stuff will look more than about five years out.

Our public finances are basically a mini-van careening down a rutted mountain road at night with no headlights, while the passengers and driver argue over which radio station to listen to.