01-28-2026, 11:42 AM
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#26341
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by YyjFlames
The team is sixth place in the entire NHL. Ben Chiarot is playing over 20 minutes a game, mostly with a rookie defender in Sandin-Pellika.
Sandin-Pellika is -15. Chiarot is +1.
Ben Chiarot starts almost twice as many shifts in the defensive zone compared to the offensive zone and has for the last 5-10 years. And this year he's a positive player. His coach trusts him.
He's not going to be the guy to win a team a stanley cup, but as a 4/5 guy, with leadership and character traits with the young guys coming in there, this is a good guy to lock down as Detroit enters their competitive window.
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Great context!
Yeah Dom's model has always hated defensive defensemen.
He hated Kevin Bahl's contract for example, which starting to look like a big win for the Flames.
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01-28-2026, 11:44 AM
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#26342
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#1 Goaltender
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Flames are putting way too much concern in having no RS spots available for the next few months. IMO Kadri with RS makes the most sense as the differential in return would be much more significant that RS on Coleman or Whitecloud. Weegar is signed too long to RS.
NJ just dumped Palat and did it for a minimal cost. Conroy should be able to trade Coleman and any team acquiring should be able to throw back a contract to make it work. His return will be good with no RS.
Work the trade for Kadri now with RS and if it doesn't work out this deadline, then trade Coleman with RS.
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01-28-2026, 11:44 AM
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#26343
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cam_calderon
To be fair, the other poster said number 1 goalie. I don't think you need a truly elite goalie to win the cup. Just needs to make timely saves and not let the pressure get to them in the big moments.
I think he's absolutely a core piece, as is Cole Reschny, but he tops at second line centre, pretty much a good replacement for prime Backlund. Coronato is a core piece.
These guys are all gonna be key contributors if we are good, I can't see them going anywhere. We do need a star in this draft though, a guy who really puts bums in seats.
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I think calling a player drafted #16 who has never played in the NHL is absolutely a core piece is just wishful thinking, as his chance of failing is likely greater than succeeding. Coronato has not done enough to suggest he's going to be a core piece of a contending team.
And Wolf so far has been an average NHL starter to date. Still lots of time to prove he's more than that, but it's far from certain.
We all have hope that these players reach their ceiling, but the past suggest many will not. It why you need lots of picks and lots of high picks. To increase those odds. The Flames are doing just that, but it must continue.
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01-28-2026, 11:50 AM
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#26344
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Zambia
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Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
but maybe there's just something in the water in Michigan.
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01-28-2026, 11:58 AM
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#26345
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Russo and Friedman stated that Minnesota is looking for a top 6 center and Trocheck is a name of interest.
Shockingly, they have also said Guerin may be shopping Wallstedt to acquire a top line forward and he has started shopping him already.
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01-28-2026, 11:59 AM
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#26346
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Russo and Friedman stated that Minnesota is looking for a top 6 center and Trocheck is a name of interest.
Shockingly, they have also said Guerin may be shopping Wallstedt to acquire a top line forward and he has started shopping him already.
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Wallstedt has had a fantastic year, but he's like Cooley - no real track record before this season. So offers are going to be cautious. I suppose Edmonton could bite.
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01-28-2026, 12:07 PM
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#26347
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Wallstedt has had a fantastic year, but he's like Cooley - no real track record before this season. So offers are going to be cautious. I suppose Edmonton could bite.
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Edmonton doesn't have a top six center to move. Carolina, St. Louis, New Jersey?
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01-28-2026, 12:08 PM
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#26348
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Wallstedt has had a fantastic year, but he's like Cooley - no real track record before this season. So offers are going to be cautious. I suppose Edmonton could bite.
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Personally I don't see the comparison though. Wallstedt is 23 and was a first round pick (which the Oilers messed up on). Cooley is 28 and while a great find for Calgary, I think Wallstedt's ceiling is much higher. I get neither has had no NHL track record really prior to this year but they are different levels of players IMO.
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01-28-2026, 12:09 PM
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#26349
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Edmonton doesn't have a top six center to move. Carolina, St. Louis, New Jersey?
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I think it's New Jersey. Wallstedt on that team could tandem with Markstrom for a year and then take over the net. They could move Jake Allen.
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01-28-2026, 12:14 PM
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#26350
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Calgary
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Vancouver should be calling Billy G to get Wallstedt.
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01-28-2026, 12:17 PM
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#26351
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Originally Posted by Toast_Man
Vancouver should be calling Billy G to get Wallstedt.
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Pettersson going the other way where Vancouver retains salary? (obviously other parts would have to be in the deal)
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01-28-2026, 12:21 PM
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#26352
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_calderon
To be fair, the other poster said number 1 goalie. I don't think you need a truly elite goalie to win the cup. Just needs to make timely saves and not let the pressure get to them in the big moments.
I think he's absolutely a core piece, as is Cole Reschny, but he tops at second line centre, pretty much a good replacement for prime Backlund. Coronato is a core piece.
These guys are all gonna be key contributors if we are good, I can't see them going anywhere. We do need a star in this draft though, a guy who really puts bums in seats.
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I agree. A good goalie with a well rounded team can definitely win a Cup. Wolf could easily be that guy. A top 10 goalie in the league with a strong team in front of you should be enough.
Reschny definitely looks promising and likely will be a part of the future. I'd be banking on him to be supporting cast more than top line but you never know. A top 5 pick this year you hope is a legit first liner. That to me seems like the first player who could be the type that is actually leading your team
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01-28-2026, 12:21 PM
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#26353
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Wallstedt has had a fantastic year, but he's like Cooley - no real track record before this season. So offers are going to be cautious. I suppose Edmonton could bite.
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Agreed in that goalies never seem to bring as much as they should.
But Wallstedt was rated the top goalie prospect before this season, and has a huge pedigree.
Colley is 28 with zero pedigree but a good season so far. His value is by that very nature limited.
Wallstedt's value would likely be closer to Askarov.
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01-28-2026, 12:23 PM
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#26354
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Edmonton doesn't have a top six center to move. Carolina, St. Louis, New Jersey?
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01-28-2026, 12:26 PM
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#26355
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Agreed in that goalies never seem to bring as much as they should.
But Wallstedt was rated the top goalie prospect before this season, and has a huge pedigree.
Colley is 28 with zero pedigree but a good season so far. His value is by that very nature limited.
Wallstedt's value would likely be closer to Askarov.
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I didn't look at age enough. Draft pedigree - meh.
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01-28-2026, 12:28 PM
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#26356
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YyjFlames
The team is sixth place in the entire NHL. Ben Chiarot is playing over 20 minutes a game, mostly with a rookie defender in Sandin-Pellika.
Sandin-Pellika is -15. Chiarot is +1.
Ben Chiarot starts almost twice as many shifts in the defensive zone compared to the offensive zone and has for the last 5-10 years. And this year he's a positive player. His coach trusts him.
He's not going to be the guy to win a team a stanley cup, but as a 4/5 guy, with leadership and character traits with the young guys coming in there, this is a good guy to lock down as Detroit enters their competitive window.
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Detroit isn't a 6th place team due to Chiarot, but because of things like their great OT record of 8-3.
This year he's mostly playing with ASL, but last year Chiarot was playing with a veteran in Petry and had a terrible year. He isn't being dragged down by playing with ASL, but they benefit from playing with each other. That pairing is still pretty porous defensively.
Regarding the +/- away from each other. ASL didn't work on a pairing with Edvinsson, which happens when you put on 2 inexperienced NHL D-men on a pairing and ask them to play a top 4 role. At the same time Chiarot benefited from playing with Seider.
I think Hanley is a fair comparison to Chiarot, and I'd much rather have Hanley. So perhaps the Dumba comparison was a bit harsh, but I bet Detroit fans will be looking for a way to get Chiarot out of their top 4 as soon as next season.
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01-28-2026, 12:30 PM
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#26357
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Mercer for Wallstedt seems like a good fit for all. I hate it.
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01-28-2026, 12:30 PM
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#26358
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Still laughing about the Oilers not taking Wallstedt when he fell to them. They're so dumb.
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01-28-2026, 12:46 PM
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#26359
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Still laughing about the Oilers not taking Wallstedt when he fell to them. They're so dumb.
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They were also dumb not to jump on Askarov when he became available.
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01-28-2026, 12:52 PM
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#26360
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Wallstedt and Askarov would have just been more of Koskinen - Smith - Campbell - Skinner - Pickard - Jarry behind their defence.
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