Another powerful video posted by LegalEagle. It's very emotional, I broke down and cried with him. My brother is stuck in Chicago and has to deal with the ICE oppression.
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I've been the free speech guy forever but I have to wonder if people shouldn't be taking a lot more care with what they post on social media, including here. I know it's largely anonymous but it's not impossible that you could be identitied and if you're viewed as carrying water for this regime, when it all ends... I dunno.
I was thinking about this on Facebook, lots of people posting vile stuff about the two people killed and it's like... some of you are bots, no doubt, but for the real ones, that's your name and photo. One click and it's easy to see whrre you live, where you work, your kids' names and photos, what sports they play... people should be way more scared to be this brazen right now because who knows who ends up getting caught in the reckoning.
The left going after some internet trolls for trying to gaslight people into not hating the S.A thugs. I don't see it.
If control is regained of this country by sane people;
I think it is morally imperative, that most of the Nazi's roaming the streets be imprisoned quickly.
To find any level of reconciliation after this, I think the vast majority of Trumps cabinet and top officials should be in prison, hell in most eras of human history, public hanging would be the only appropriate response, but I am not sure we live in that era any more.
I think it would be only fair to see the people who have participated in either side of his massive fraud and bribery schemes make American society whole for their ill gotten gains, but I am pessimistic about that.
The facebook trolls, are for the most part victims of a con-man, and don't really deserve much beyond our inattention.
I have been in the US 1 time in the Trump era, and I took solace in the fact that I offer most of my opinions on this anonymous forum that the US government is unaware of, I was in a pretty liberal place and was asked once loudly in a bar, what i think of "the shtihead president" and I gave him a knowing look, but didn't say anything, because I know who the Nazis are and I know they are the ones that deliver consequences for speech. But the idea that I have so vocally offered my opinions anywhere scares me in the contexts of possibly entering their country, beyond the repugnance of the idea of contributing anything to American society at this moment. I really fear if Alberta some how becomes some version of 1940s Netherlands that a few people in places like this will be made examples of in a public manner, and they will have no issue figuring out who we are. But I do not fear for doctorfever at all. He should feel free to continue trying to semantically trying to get people admit they are the bad guy while defaming Nazis, he should be proud the Canadian government, and any US democratic government will not impinge on that.
Calling people out as fascist is completely on-topic for this thread, considering the US was playing with fascist ideas, and now has turned those fascist ideas into actions.
This is a timely article based on the discussions of Nazis that has come up. I'll copy the whole thing because of paywalls:
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A secret list of hundreds of alleged Nazi war criminals welcomed by Canada after the Second World War, drawn up 40 years ago, should remain secret, the information watchdog ruled Friday.
The list of more than 700 suspected Nazi war criminals who settled in Canada has remained unpublished since it was drawn up as part of an official inquiry in 1986.
The Globe and Mail was among three organizations to file an access to information request to release Part 2 of the Commission of Inquiry on War Criminals in Canada led by retired Superior Court of Quebec judge Jules Deschênes.
Library and Archives Canada (LAC) last year refused to release the second half of the report, citing the risk of potential harm to international relations and Canadian interests.
Under Canada’s Access to Information Act, institutions can refuse to release information that, if disclosed, could be expected to harm the conduct of international affairs, defence or national security.
The office of Information Commissioner said in an e-mail to The Globe on Friday that it accepted LAC’s arguments that releasing the names could damage Canada’s relations with a foreign power.
Some groups and individuals who were consulted by the government about whether to release the secret list had argued doing so could harm Ukraine. They said that Russian propaganda in the war against Ukraine could benefit from the disclosure that Ukrainian Nazis were among those who came to Canada. They expressed fears that the information could fuel Russian President Vladimir Putin’s unfounded claim that the invasion of Ukraine amounts to a purge of Nazis.
But The Globe last year asked the information commissioner to review LAC’s refusal to disclose the list, arguing that the passage of time meant that most if not all the people on it would now be dead. As well, a draft list of the alleged war criminals had been unearthed by U.S. researchers, while several other countries, including Argentina, had recently opened their records on Nazis harboured after the Second World War, The Globe argued.
Among the estimated 5,000 Nazis said to have settled in Argentina were Adolf Eichmann, one of the Holocaust’s architects, and Josef Mengele, the notorious Auschwitz physician who fled Europe under an assumed identity.
Among the Nazi collaborators who came to Canada was Volodymyr Kubiovych, a Ukrainian who helped organize the SS Galicia division of Ukrainian volunteers opposed to Russia’s advance. He was editor-in-chief of the Encyclopedia of Ukraine compiled at the University of Alberta, but died in France in 1985. A photograph of a parade in Lviv, Ukraine, in July, 1943, shows Mr. Kubiovych making a Nazi salute
alongside Otto Wächter, a senior member of the SS who also served as governor of Galicia and Krakow.
In 2023, there was an outcry after a veteran of the Nazi-led Galicia SS division Yaroslav Hunka, received two standing ovations in the House of Commons during a visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
LAC had told Caroline Maynard, the Information Commissioner, that disclosing the list would result in significant injury to Canada’s relationship with a foreign government. LAC also told her it would “cause significant injury to the defence of a foreign state allied with Canada,” Maureen Brennan, an investigator in Ms. Maynard’s office, said in the e-mail.
The e-mail said the harm would extend “beyond Canada’s relations with the foreign government in question” and would adversely affect Canada’s relationships with other allied states.
“I reviewed LAC’s consultation materials and note that there was an overall consensus that, in the current political climate, disclosure of the information would give rise to serious concerns about reasonably expected harm,” Ms. Brennan said.
Dozens of leading scholars from around the world, including Sir Richard Evans, former Regius professor of history at Cambridge University and author of 18 books, including Hitler’s People, have called on Canada to declassify the report.
On Friday Canada’s Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center, named after the famous Nazi hunter, reacted with dismay that the information watchdog had upheld Ottawa’s decision to keep the list secret.
“The government’s claim that revealing the truth about Nazi war criminals living in Canada could somehow be a threat to national security or international diplomacy is an insult to the intelligence of the public,” said Jaime Kirzner Roberts, senior director, policy and advocacy at the center.
“It is long past time for the facts to come out about the Nazi perpetrators of genocide and war crimes who were allowed to escape justice and live comfortable, protected lives in our country.”
A research team led by UCLA historian Jared McBride, an expert on war crimes in the Second World War, last year unearthed what he concluded was an earlier annotated version of the secret list.
The Information Commissioner’s office argued that this list had been released through an access to information request in 2019, “at a time which predates the relevant current global context.”
Among the names on this list, seen by The Globe, was Helmut Oberlander, a member of the Nazi Einsatzgruppen death squads during the Second World War. The Canadian government spent years trying to strip him of his citizenship, but he died at the age of 97 in 2021 while the matter was still before the courts.
Professor Per Rudling of Lund University in Sweden, who has researched the settlement of alleged Nazis in Canada, said he found the decision to keep the list secret “curious.” He said Ukraine had opened up its own KGB archives and the U.S. has released the bulk of its documents pertaining to alleged Nazi war criminals.
“Of all comparable Western liberal democracies, Canada stands out as being particularly restrictive on archival materials in regards to purported war criminals,” he said in an e-mail.
The left going after some internet trolls for trying to gaslight people into not hating the S.A thugs. I don't see it.
If control is regained of this country by sane people;
I think it is morally imperative, that most of the Nazi's roaming the streets be imprisoned quickly.
To find any level of reconciliation after this, I think the vast majority of Trumps cabinet and top officials should be in prison, hell in most eras of human history, public hanging would be the only appropriate response, but I am not sure we live in that era any more.
I think it would be only fair to see the people who have participated in either side of his massive fraud and bribery schemes make American society whole for their ill gotten gains, but I am pessimistic about that.
The facebook trolls, are for the most part victims of a con-man, and don't really deserve much beyond our inattention.
I have been in the US 1 time in the Trump era, and I took solace in the fact that I offer most of my opinions on this anonymous forum that the US government is unaware of, I was in a pretty liberal place and was asked once loudly in a bar, what i think of "the shtihead president" and I gave him a knowing look, but didn't say anything, because I know who the Nazis are and I know they are the ones that deliver consequences for speech. But the idea that I have so vocally offered my opinions anywhere scares me in the contexts of possibly entering their country, beyond the repugnance of the idea of contributing anything to American society at this moment. I really fear if Alberta some how becomes some version of 1940s Netherlands that a few people in places like this will be made examples of in a public manner, and they will have no issue figuring out who we are. But I do not fear for doctorfever at all. He should feel free to continue trying to semantically trying to get people admit they are the bad guy while defaming Nazis, he should be proud the Canadian government, and any US democratic government will not impinge on that.
Sadly I don’t think the path to reconciliation is to charge these guys, the battle would be huge and embolden them more. I’d make them irrelevant and a mockery but I don’t see how criminal charges arise from this.
It's crazy to see hundreds of ICE agents facing off against demonstrators. It seems pretty clear now that their main focus is on American citizens and the immigration enforcement is secondary.
There were videos of Minnesota National Guard members alongside demonstrators today handing out coffee and donuts. Man, it would be crazy if we end up seeing a full on confrontation between a state national guard and federal agents.
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Sadly I don’t think the path to reconciliation is to charge these guys, the battle would be huge and embolden them more. I’d make them irrelevant and a mockery but I don’t see how criminal charges arise from this.
I think that was the mistake last time, they tried so hard to do everything so by the book so that it didn't look political last time, and all it did was make them look weak, and others drifted away from their weakness into nasalism understanding there are no consequences for these people anyways.
Everyone knows they are criminals. Everyone know Hegseth committed war crimes. Everyone knows Trump has committed fraud, insider trading, violated emoluments laws and the hatch act, Everyone know Noem has purgered herself and has been complicate in terrorizing the American public. Everyone know that Patel has misused public funds and violated the confidentiality of investigations.
The best thing they can do politically at this point in time is to lock 'em up, charge 'em for the crimes they've all committed right on TV, then worry about investigating it while they rot in prison, stall if you need more time, appeal and ignor if you are ordered to release them, and if all else fails charge 'em for something else again, because they've all committed more than 1 crime, and you can restart the clock on stalling for their release. The strong thing to do that the electorate will respect is to state what everyone sees, never let them see another minute of freedom.
In all honesty there should be zero tolerance for the MAGA gaslighting perspective wherever and whenever we can help it.
And I'd go as far to say that it's our responsibility as people with an awareness of our own history who are in many cases the direct survivors of people fought and even gave their lives to eradicate this exact brand of ideology to not be idle bystanders to it, but challenge it and snuff it out without hesitation.
This shouldn't be treated like your other standard variance of opinion on a controversial or subjective matter. It's a legitimately dangerous perspective to be able to spread or argue in favor of.
If this whole situation to the south escalates and we're looking at even a sliver of what came around last century that looked that moved in such an eerily similar way to what we've witnessed to this point, anybody who gave shelter or turned a blind eye to that subhuman level of unconscionable rhetoric will sorely regret it.
These people don't listen to reason and, until real consequences arise later, are unreachable by any form of normal discourse or debate. They've abandoned their moral compasses, 'souls', or whatever you want to call it. But it's literally the perspective of destruction and the abdicating of basic moral principles and human decency.
It. Deserves. No. Platform.
So while this is the board run and moderated by people who aren't me. I'd just politely but firmly suggest that you don't put yourself into the camp of future regret by actually giving this perspective any respect whatsoever or room to breathe.
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It's crazy to see hundreds of ICE agents facing off against demonstrators. It seems pretty clear now that their main focus is on American citizens and the immigration enforcement is secondary.
There were videos of Minnesota National Guard members alongside demonstrators today handing out coffee and donuts. Man, it would be crazy if we end up seeing a full on confrontation between a state national guard and federal agents.
You've sort of hit the nail on the head. Prior to this, Trumps methods of intimidation in liberal cities was to send in the National Guard, and then judges ruled continuously that he could not do that and had no justification. So this is his backup plan, ICE agents that are simply there to enforce "immigration law" by doing crowd control and shooting tear gas at protestors...hmm...something doesn't add up there. Kristi Noem is playing the role of Heinrich Muller in this historical re-enactment.
Those National Guard members didn't sign up for any of this, hence their support for the protestors. Those ICE agents were specifically recruited in the most hateful places of the manosphere to "take our country back". Lots of documentation of their recruitment tactics to find the worst of the worst. Wannabe rent-a-cops who are dangerously unhinged and ready to attack. These men were brought together to do one thing only: Intimidate, scare, attack, and imprison anyone that Der Fuhrer finds problematic. They are the Brown Shirts mixed with the Gestapo. Nobody should view them as anything other than that. They deserve our full hatred and derision. They are not patriots. They are evil.
It's important to recognize and call out what and who these people are. The next step is to fight back.
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I'm surprised Vegas hasn't started running odds on this yet, or on how many mass shootings there will be in a given month
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I think it would be too easy to cheat. ICE agents would just put their money on the over, then kill as many as they needed to in order to win.
There is a theory that the White House is manipulating the length of press confrences because of the betting market.
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A viral clip of White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt abruptly ending a briefing seconds before a key betting threshold has amplified concerns about insider trading in prediction markets. The incident comes as 30 Democrats introduced legislation to ban elected officials from placing political bets.
I am sending Tom Homan to Minnesota tonight. He has not been involved in that area, but knows and likes many of the people there. Tom is tough but fair, and will report directly to me. Separately, a major investigation is going on with respect to the massive 20 Billion Dollar, Plus, Welfare Fraud that has taken place in Minnesota, and is at least partially responsible for the violent organized protests going on in the streets. Additionally, the DOJ and Congress are looking at “Congresswoman” Illhan Omar, who left Somalia with NOTHING, and is now reportedly worth more than 44 Million Dollars. Time will tell all. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DJT
