01-18-2026, 07:12 PM
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#24641
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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There are wayyy to many players on this roster and not a ton more expiring deals. I really hope they start to clean that up.
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01-18-2026, 07:18 PM
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#24642
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
There are wayyy to many players on this roster and not a ton more expiring deals. I really hope they start to clean that up.
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So trade for rentals! Got it! /s
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01-18-2026, 07:19 PM
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#24643
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Back in Calgary
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Didn't someone mention a 3way yesterday? Maybe that's Whitecloud next?
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01-18-2026, 07:20 PM
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#24644
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3thirty
Didn't someone mention a 3way yesterday? Maybe that's Whitecloud next?
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considering how many teams are looking for a RD, it wouldn't be surprising
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01-18-2026, 07:23 PM
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#24645
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#1 Goaltender
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Disappointing that we’re devaluing our current Vegas pick.
I was just thinking about all the trades over the years with poor returns, and how there was always the hope of part of the return being “flipped” to make it reasonable, and it never happens. So while I’ll be hopeful that Whitecloud does get moved this year, I expect to be disappointed again.
Having said that, he is a decent asset, and they probably could get a good return on him if he is traded before the deadline. That would make this overall package fairly good.
But it still sucks that this is Vegas.
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01-18-2026, 07:24 PM
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#24646
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ryan Coke
Disappointing that we’re devaluing our current Vegas pick.
I was just thinking about all the trades over the years with poor returns, and how there was always the hope of part of the return being “flipped” to make it reasonable, and it never happens. So while I’ll be hopeful that Whitecloud does get moved this year, I expect to be disappointed again.
Having said that, he is a decent asset, and they probably could get a good return on him if he is traded before the deadline. That would make this overall package fairly good.
But it still sucks that this is Vegas.
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Sucks that Andersson couldn’t have been dead set on a team with better assets haha
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01-18-2026, 07:25 PM
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#24647
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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01-18-2026, 07:32 PM
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#24648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You have to believe DAL would LOVE to get Whitecloud (and they can afford him)
He would be a huge addition for SJS too (though they may be looking more for an offensive Dman)
He would be absolutely fantastic on the Oilers, but #### them, obviously
Toronto would love him too. And Boston, for that matter
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and Calgary
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01-18-2026, 07:44 PM
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#24649
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Unfortunately it seems like the Flames will miss out on some pretty decent returns simply because Rasmus won't extend with certain teams, which is not surprising. My bet is the Bruins deal will fall through because in the end they won't be able to come to terms on an extension. Ras might want to extend there, but it's possible they won't agree to his contract ask.
My guess is after all of this, he'll end up going somewhere as a rental for a late 1st and some mid prospect. Then in the off season he signs with Vegas for less than what he was rumored to be asking for from other teams. Vegas gets their guy on a lesser contract without having to give anything up in a trade.
And while we're happy we got a return for him in a rental trade, we get to ruminate over the speculated returns that were leaked during this whole process and the better prospects and picks we likely missed out on.
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Woof. It's comical (and depressing?) that you basically called it note-for-note hours before the trade happened.
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01-18-2026, 07:56 PM
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#24650
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Conroy says "this is the first thing" on Fan 960.
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Hopefully it can correct this screw up.
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01-18-2026, 07:56 PM
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#24651
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Franchise Player
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After Gaudreau walked to free agency, Conroy made a point that it was a learning experience and he would not let that happen with players on the last year of their deal… and he did stick to that. If they would not sign, he traded players.
After these experiences with Hanifin and Andersson, I hope he takes it as a learning experience again that, if a player is not in the long-term plans of the organization, it’s likely better to to trade them early. That means Kadri, Whitecloud and Coleman. The exact same scenario (hell.. it could even be Vegas next year) could play out with Coleman next year. It will get leaked he will only sign with 1-2 teams and the trade leverage is gone.
To be clear… I’m ok with what Conroy got under the circumstances. I just think you can remove the “with extension/without extension” stuff if you trade them at a point where there are at least two playoff runs in their contract for an acquiring team. I’d like that to be the new normal during this rebuild.
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01-18-2026, 08:04 PM
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#24652
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
After Gaudreau walked to free agency, Conroy made a point that it was a learning experience and he would not let that happen with players on the last year of their deal… and he did stick to that. If they would not sign, he traded players.
After these experiences with Hanifin and Andersson, I hope he takes it as a learning experience again that, if a player is not in the long-term plans of the organization, it’s likely better to to trade them early. That means Kadri, Whitecloud and Coleman. The exact same scenario (hell.. it could even be Vegas next year) could play out with Coleman next year. It will get leaked he will only sign with 1-2 teams and the trade leverage is gone.
To be clear… I’m ok with what Conroy got under the circumstances. I just think you can remove the “with extension/without extension” stuff if you trade them at a point where there are at least two playoff runs in their contract for an acquiring team. I’d like that to be the new normal during this rebuild.
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Well said. Good return in a vacuum. But he should have been traded a year ago.
We'll see what they do with Kadri and Coleman now. They only have one retention spot left, it's probably better used on Kadri.
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01-18-2026, 08:10 PM
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#24653
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Okay onto Kadri, Coleman, and Whitecloud (in the order of importance of moving them)
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01-18-2026, 08:12 PM
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#24654
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames67
Still like the idea of keeping Weegar, he’s future captain material in my eyes.
Even if you want to sell him, do you want to sell him during a down year?
Even if you want to sell him, your D-core is a little too junior IMO. He’s the vet you keep throughout a rebuild to be on line 2 behind Parekh.
Rather sell Whitecloud, Pachal, and Hanley first.
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If you can clear five and a half years of salary, you do it.
They can find another Weegar.
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01-18-2026, 08:13 PM
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#24655
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Well, guess we will just sit back now that the biggest trade chip in the trade market went for a song. Let see the rest of the trades league wide unfold at the deadline.
I guarantee this trade is gonna stick out in a bad way.
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Maybe...I don't know. You don't see much more than stuff like a 1st, prospect, 2nd
Flames got a top 4 dman, 1st, 2nd that becomes a 1st, and a C Prospect
If have liked an A or B prospect but I don't see how this will stick out like a sore thumb. Especially since Andersson announced he wasn't extending anywhere
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01-18-2026, 08:15 PM
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#24656
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Time to get Kadri out of here. The guy has been checked out for months and his GAF meter is approaching Huberdeau's.
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01-18-2026, 08:16 PM
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#24657
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Okay onto Kadri, Coleman, and Whitecloud (in the order of importance of moving them)
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i think Coleman before Kadri is more pressing...we have plenty of wingers but not enough centres and Kadri has a longer contract.
i understand that you may feel Kadri's value tanks faster but waiting to move Coleman may impact his value more.
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01-18-2026, 08:19 PM
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#24658
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Franchise Player
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It may devalue the Flames 26 pick, but if they win it all I would be okay with the pick going from 26ish to 32 if it means the 28th pick is a late 1st. Really, if Andersson does chase the big contract in the summer there is no guarantee he signs with Vegas. So really losing Whitecloud and Andersson kind of increases the value of the 27 1st with SJ and Anaheim making strides now.
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01-18-2026, 08:39 PM
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#24659
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Franchise Player
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The Flames own pick is far more important than where the Vegas 2026 one ends up. This is the best shot at a top 3 pick this org has had since 2014.
And besides, Vegas is still maybe the 4th or 5th best team in the west.
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01-18-2026, 08:42 PM
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#24660
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
The Flames own pick is far more important than where the Vegas 2026 one ends up. This is the best shot at a top 3 pick this org has had since 2014.
And besides, Vegas is still maybe the 4th or 5th best team in the west.
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I hope Vegas wins the cup this year.
The 2026 pick goes from high 20's to 32nd OA but then the 2028 pick jumps up 32 spots into the 1st round.
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