[Trade] Andersson (50% retained) to Vegas for 27 1st, cond 28 2nd, Whitecloud, Wiebe

[browna]

The “no extension” means zero to me. Andersson likely already has a handshake extension or will within the first day after reporting to Vegas, which won’t be announced until later to save some egg on the face for Conroy.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Sandman

We got a first and a second, that’s all that matters. The 2027 draft will be fun!

At the end of the day, yes that’s the ticket.

…I don’t like that we got back Whitecloud, unless we flip him. If he comes in plays well, it just hurts our draft spot in ‘26.

Friedman: Andersson indicated today he wasn’t signing an extension at this point.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Johnny Rotten

What can Whitecloud garner at the deadline? He’s only at 2.75 million for 26-27 and 27-28.

maybe a 2nd or 2nd and a 4th?

something in that range would be my guess

but I would probably guess that they don't look to trade him until next year

[PepsiFree]

Is what it is. Nothing to be excited about but hard to be mad given the situation.

Would be nice to have had a half decent prospect to fawn over. But the Flames have done really well in the top few rounds of the draft lately so we’ll see.

Had to laugh at the people demanding it just happen getting their way. Hope you’re happy at least.

[FlamesAreOne]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman on 960 says on Sunday that Andersson indicated that he would not sign an extension with any team at this time once that happened the pendulum swung to the Knights

Ras disappointed Flames fans one last time.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I doubt Whitecloud is worth a second. And two late seconds are not worth a first.



You cannot squint hard enough to turn this into two firsts.



But it's the best Conroy could do with a rental player.

He's a top 4 guy on one of the better teams in the league on a cheap contract.

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Let's be honest, it is a garbage return and people have the right to be angry. And question this management group after this disaster.

Go touch some grass.

[Matty81]

Even the 1st we got is garbage in relative terms... another one right at the end f the 1st and a ways out. And our 1st from vegas this year will be worse now too. Pretty terrible return honestly. Somehow vegas didnt even in lude a decent prospect? I would have rathered they trade hin anywhere else just on principle.

[JonDuke]

So we got their 2027th first and presumably the 2028 if they win the cup this year.
If they do win the cup but then the 2027 1st ends up being a top 10 and is deferred, do we get the 2029??

[PaperBagger'14]

So a first, a 2nd (outside shot at being a first), a throw in D prospect and a 29 year old D man who doesn’t fit the “rebuild”.

Man if only someone had the foresight to see last years TDL was the time to trade Anderson. Conroy got worked.

[CgyFlamesftw]

Hope they learned by now, 2 years of player is worth double. Fact Brandon Carlo got more is what blows my mind.

[Ashasx]

If there is a positive I will take from this, it's hope that by dealing Rasmus with time left before the deadline, that Conroy will now pivot to trading one or both of Coleman or Kadri (with my priority being Coleman).

I can't imagine the Flames having a quiet deadline again given the time they have available now to make a trade.

[bluejays]

My personal view is this was a pretty underwhelming deal. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being a robbery, 5 being even, this was probably a 4 to me. Two key defenceman have been dealt to LV where LV has somehow leaked their interest, and the players took advantage of the humble old Flames bending over backwards to appease players who have been around for a bit (but not franchise players). This happening twice now just means a lesson has to be learned to not wait until a player is in their contract year to deal them. Secondly, we don't have a franchise player. No need to coddle them. Treat it like a business, as every agent seems to not reciprocate. The Flames waited until he played a home game to say bye, and still this happens? Man, I'm pretty annoyed.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Let's be honest, it is a garbage return and people have the right to be angry. And question this management group after this disaster.

I'm just trying to see who I'm allowed to disagree with without getting called a bully.

Your post post was 100% over the top. It should garner a big reaction, but not sure that's allowed anymore.

Don't use "lets be honest" that's suggesting I need to agree with you or I'm lying.

People always have the right to be angly.

[Saqe]

I like Whitecloud a lot

[DJones]

Originally Posted by browna

The “no extension” means zero to me. Andersson likely already has a handshake extension or will within the first day after reporting to Vegas, which won’t be announced until later to save some egg on the face for Conroy.

Ya they already have an agreement in place.

I would rather Toronto's first by itself than this

[JurassicTunga12]

I miss the days of hoping for Danielson and a 1st.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Have to believe at least one other team would have traded their first round pick for Andersson. A 1st + 3rd for Andersson from another team would have likely been better than a 1st + 2nd from Vegas that worsens the 2026 1st they likely have from Vegas. They are pretty much hedging their bet with Vegas:

If Vegas goes on a great run and wins the cup, they’ll hope they will crash in 2027 and 2028. If Vegas struggles this year, they’ll hope they are really bad in 2027.

You’re suggesting a 1st and a 3rd is somehow better than a 1st, a 2nd (which could become a 1st), a bottom 4 dman, and a prospect?

That’s nonsense.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Remember when I said I was afraid Conroy would take less to get it done before the Olympic break? That's exactly what happened. The other teams wanted access to talk extension and Andersson was having none of it. So Conroy got gun shy about holding the asset any longer and Andersson pretty much shoe horned him into dealing with Vegas. It's tough being a Flames fan

Yup, it’s what some people desperately wanted. It’s too bad Andersson wouldn’t negotiate with other teams that pretty much locked them into a deadline return.

[Tbull8]

So I guess best case scenario is he wins the cup with Vegas, then goes somewhere else as a Ufa?