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Old 01-15-2026, 11:05 AM   #21481
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Is there really a huge difference in value between a rental and an extended guy?

If we signed Rasmus right now to 8 x 9 or 8 x 8 or anything - I suspect you aren't getting a ton more for him and you'd have less teams interested.
Yes, the difference is significant

Edit: Less teams would be interested in him, for starters. Which automatically reduces competing offers.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:07 AM   #21482
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Been told not to expect a sign and trade in regards to Andersson, he will be traded as a rental. Andersson might extend with the team he is traded to but he has not decided anything yet. Will want to get a feel for his new team and decide if he wants to stay going forward or go to UFA. I am also told lots of smoke but nothing imminent and he expects Andersson to still be in the lineup.
Queue the masses to get their pitchforks and torches!
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:08 AM   #21483
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If you don't want players to use contract clauses that you negotiated into deals in good faith, give them more money to not have those clauses.
Highly agree, NMCs should be extremely limited and valuable commodities, and attaching them to multiple contracts is a critical failure of team management. Internal policy should be to lock it to like 3-4 contracts, and the rest you have to pay for.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:09 AM   #21484
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Been told not to expect a sign and trade in regards to Andersson, he will be traded as a rental. Andersson might extend with the team he is traded to but he has not decided anything yet. Will want to get a feel for his new team and decide if he wants to stay going forward or go to UFA. I am also told lots of smoke but nothing imminent and he expects Andersson to still be in the lineup.
I really hope you are wrong. If you put him in the lineup at this point, that is complete negligence with a trade being so close.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:09 AM   #21485
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At least no team (Vegas, Dallas) has an advantage then! Everyone’s on the same level. Let the bidding commence
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:10 AM   #21486
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Highly agree, NMCs should be extremely limited and valuable commodities, and attaching them to multiple contracts is a critical failure of team management. Internal policy should be to lock it to like 3-4 contracts, and the rest you have to pay for.

Hey, if you're trying to get under the cap, squeezing guys for $250,000-$500,000 less is hugely valuable. But when you do that, you have to be fine with dealing with the consequences.


They gave Jarome Iginla a full no-move, which kept his cap hit down. That's fine, but then you have to be fine with him having a stance on where he ends up (e.g., Pittsburgh over Boston).
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:11 AM   #21487
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Been told not to expect a sign and trade in regards to Andersson, he will be traded as a rental. Andersson might extend with the team he is traded to but he has not decided anything yet. Will want to get a feel for his new team and decide if he wants to stay going forward or go to UFA. I am also told lots of smoke but nothing imminent and he expects Andersson to still be in the lineup.
This sucks! Not good for a nice return.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:11 AM   #21488
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I know people are getting antsy and concerned, know that it IS happening here.
The wheels are already in motion, its coming down to contract talk(s) and ensuring the value matches the final solution.
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Been told not to expect a sign and trade in regards to Andersson, he will be traded as a rental. Andersson might extend with the team he is traded to but he has not decided anything yet. Will want to get a feel for his new team and decide if he wants to stay going forward or go to UFA. I am also told lots of smoke but nothing imminent and he expects Andersson to still be in the lineup.
So, with these two posts, with Royle9 pluralizing "contract(s)", and dissentowner saying Ras is not extending, perhaps someone else is working on a contract in a trade?
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:11 AM   #21489
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Far from an insider, but some friends that work at the dome say there is a real energy around the building this morning.
Electricians doing some work?
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Highly agree, NMCs should be extremely limited and valuable commodities, and attaching them to multiple contracts is a critical failure of team management. Internal policy should be to lock it to like 3-4 contracts, and the rest you have to pay for.
Damned if you do damned if you don’t.

Calgary, and basically every other Canadian team, uses no movement or some sort of player control to entice players in negotiations. I don’t think the Flames have the ‘currency’ to dictate to players on these items in the same way Vegas, Florida, or other markets might.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:12 AM   #21491
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I really hope you are wrong. If you put him in the lineup at this point, that is complete negligence with a trade being so close.
Or it is a tactic to up the price.

If a team doesn't want him to play tonight then add something to the deal to make them close the deal.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:13 AM   #21492
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I really, really hope it's Detroit.

I also respect Rasmus less for the contract shenanigans. Yes, it's his right but being exclusive to only 1-2 teams obviously hampers us considerably, and he knows that too. I respect the player and his work for us, but I hate when it gets like this at the end. Bitter millionaires.
He has the right to re sign with any team or test free agency.

It sucks for the Flames but our management should know this is a reality.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:14 AM   #21493
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Or it is a tactic to up the price.

If a team doesn't want him to play tonight then add something to the deal to make them close the deal.
I'm quite certain that the risk is 99% on Calgary if they do this and only 1% on the interested teams.
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Highly agree, NMCs should be extremely limited and valuable commodities, and attaching them to multiple contracts is a critical failure of team management. Internal policy should be to lock it to like 3-4 contracts, and the rest you have to pay for.
So, you don't offer Gridin, Bahl, Kuznetsov etc. any trade protection because you've already given it to McKenna, Parekh, Wolf and Reschny. And you don't sign any skilled UFAs.

Firm rules lead to bad practices.
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Back to square one.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:20 AM   #21496
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I'm quite certain that the risk is 99% on Calgary if they do this and only 1% on the interested teams.
I'm quite certain it's a small risk in any event.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:21 AM   #21497
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It’s also his and his family’s life… yes he’s an “asset” but he’s also a person. Every single one of us would do what’s best for our family over doing what’s best for our employer
Exactly. I don't think we should hold it against a player for not wanting to sign a contract just anywhere. It's gravy if they do, but it shouldn't be an expectation.
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Old 01-15-2026, 11:22 AM   #21498
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https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/2026/01...t-maple-leafs/

Dreger says that many believe it is likely Kadri gets traded

He also says that if Conroy gets what he needs from Andersson and Kadri (if he gets traded) trades, that it is unlikely Coleman gets traded. He is downplaying how high Coleman is on trade boards saying the Flames want to keep him for the same reasons other teams want him.

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Old 01-15-2026, 11:24 AM   #21499
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Dreger says that many believe Kadri gets traded

He also says that if Conroy gets what the needs from Andersson and Kadri (if he gets traded) trades, that it is unlikely Coleman gets traded.
I have high scepticism of anything Dreger says the last few years. Feels like Nonis feeds him fake info to drive up offers
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Dreger says that many believe Kadri gets traded

He also says that if Conroy gets what the needs from Andersson and Kadri (if he gets traded) trades, that it is unlikely Coleman gets traded.
This would be my preferred scenario if keeping 1/3. Fingers crossed.
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