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Old 01-11-2026, 11:22 AM   #20321
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Yeah I’ve thought about Sam O’Reilly from Tampa for Coleman as well.

Dream home runs:

To DET: Andersson (extended)
To CGY: Danielson, ‘27 1st

To WSH: Kadri (50% retained - and informed OV isn’t retiring)
To CGY: Cristall, ‘26 1st

To TBL: Coleman (50% retained)
To CGY: O’Reilly, ‘26 or ‘27 2nd

That’d be smashing.
I am happy with the Andersson return now bumping up to "Danielson + 1st". My "dream" is that the bidding war pushing SJS or ANA to dangle a Misa or McQueen. Even if it means the Flames have to add. But if we can walk away with Danielson then that is a victory in and of itself. (So much better than many of the suggestions for VGK or Stars trades.)

For Coleman, I would try and get the Stars to swap Coleman for Bichsel. I think that would be a much better add than O'Reilly and makes a lot more sense than using Andersson to get Bichsel.

For Kadri, hopefully the Canadiens come back with a stronger offer. Based on my limited reading of Upside Hockey I would say that Zharvosky or Kapanen should be the target if Hage is off the table. But there would need to be a significant add on the Canadiens side to close the value gap between those prospects and Kadri.
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:23 AM   #20322
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I would be happy if we get more for Kadri than what we gave for Monahan to be off the team.
I never thought there would be a situation where Flames would get value on either Coleman or Kadri. I’m still a little skeptical about the returns getting bandied about on Andersson. Giving me Markstrom for the 10th overall vibes again. Prove me wrong Conroy
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Detroit play at home tomorrow evening. The Flames are just south in Columbus awaiting a Tuesday game.
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:27 AM   #20324
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Sec's 'REBUILD. APPROVED.' post still lives comfortably in the penthouse in my head on this warm Sunday morning. What a nice way to close out the week!
RIP Rebiggle.
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:32 AM   #20325
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Detroit play at home tomorrow evening. The Flames are just south in Columbus awaiting a Tuesday game.
It is also Sergei Fedorov jersey retirement night... would they want to overshadow that with a major trade?
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:33 AM   #20326
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RIP Rebiggle.
Nah. We brand our rebuild The Great Rebiggle, or The Grand Rebiggle.
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:34 AM   #20327
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I would be happy if we get more for Kadri than what we gave for Monahan to be off the team.
So are we talking about getting more than a 1st back or more than the #16 overall pick? which would be equivalent to 2 x 1sts in the 28-32 range.
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:40 AM   #20328
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Andy STILL likely needs to agree either to a S&T or to re-sign with the new club. Doesn’t matter how many are bidding if he doesn’t want to sign. Reality.
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It is also Sergei Fedorov jersey retirement night... would they want to overshadow that with a major trade?
That Sergei Fedorov 'Premier' card back in the day with the gold trim was such a hot commodity. Man was that guy good.
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:43 AM   #20330
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Another interesting tidbit from the person who cites Danielson + a 1st on the table for Ras:

Andersson’s ask was apparently $7.25 x 8 years, which Calgary didn’t agree to. Just to quell the 8/9 million talk.
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I disagree. I think Kadri should get the biggest return of the 3 and if you eat half the salary he should be getting way more than Andersson or Coleman. I think without salary retained that is a fair trade but eating $3.5M per for 3 years it should be 2x 1st plus Cristal. Kadri at $3.5M is an insane steal
Especially with the Flames’ only remaining retention slot tied up for 3 years. Seriously handicaps them for other deals. For retention on Kadri, the return would have to include multiple first round picks and/or top tier prospects.
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Old 01-11-2026, 11:47 AM   #20332
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The rumour is the danielson package has to have a an extension in place for it to happen. No extension then no trade. I believe it’s been reported that Anderson won’t sign extension with sharks also. So it doesn’t really matter what they will offer unless it’s a rental price.
This makes sense based on lessons learned from the Hanifin trade. I imagine the flames negotiated a deal based on an extension in place for Andersson before allowing Detroit to talk to Andersson’s camp. That likely becomes the price the moment Detroit has their talks with Andersson. It’s up to Detroit after that if:
a) they can get a deal done with Andersson’s camp
b) they are willing to pay the same price with Andersson on the fence about extending because they think they can convince after he is with their team for a few months

Once the Red Wings and Andersson’s camp have spoken directly, I don’t think you can turn the wheels back and switch to a rental price for Andersson with the Red Wings because what if he ends up extending with them 2 months later after realizing he likes the city/team… it will feel like Detroit got a feeling they could extend him in their chats with him, paid the rental price instead, and then got the deal done anyways. It’s Hanifin all over again in that scenario.

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Old 01-11-2026, 11:50 AM   #20333
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Andersson should be kept out of the line-up until he's traded.
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Yeah I’ve thought about Sam O’Reilly from Tampa for Coleman as well.

Dream home runs:

To DET: Andersson (extended)
To CGY: Danielson, ‘27 1st

To WSH: Kadri (50% retained - and informed OV isn’t retiring)
To CGY: Cristall, ‘26 1st

To TBL: Coleman (50% retained)
To CGY: O’Reilly, ‘26 or ‘27 2nd

That’d be smashing.
I think with the Detroit deal, the Wings have to take the risk of taking on Andersson, extension or not. It might even be better for them to not have him extended with how well ASP is playing. We will find a different suitor who is willing to take on Andersson as a rental if the Wings are gonna play that game.

Kadri at 50% retention is just not going to happen. That is way too much retention with the term that he has left. I also don't think Cristall is available. It would be a different prospect or player, like Parascak. I feel that Cristall is Ovi's next heir to the top line.

The Coleman one is fine. Though, with 50% retention in 1.5 seasons I would say that he is worth a 1st and a good prospect like SOR/Geekie.

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The rumour is the danielson package has to have a an extension in place for it to happen. No extension then no trade. I believe it’s been reported that Anderson won’t sign extension with sharks also. So it doesn’t really matter what they will offer unless it’s a rental price.
Then someone else will pay the price. Andersson at this point is non-committal, and we are not just going to keep him if he doesn't want to commit to anyone.
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Another interesting tidbit from the person who cites Danielson + a 1st on the table for Ras:

Andersson’s ask was apparently $7.25 x 8 years, which Calgary didn’t agree to. Just to quell the 8/9 million talk.
If that’s real that is actually a team friendly deal
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I think with the Detroit deal, the Wings have to take the risk of taking on Andersson, extension or not. It might even be better for them to not have him extended with how well ASP is playing. We will find a different suitor who is willing to take on Andersson as a rental if the Wings are gonna play that game.

Kadri at 50% retention is just not going to happen. That is way too much retention with the term that he has left. I also don't think Cristall is available. It would be a different prospect or player, like Parascak. I feel that Cristall is Ovi's next heir to the top line.

The Coleman one is fine. Though, with 50% retention in 1.5 seasons I would say that he is worth a 1st and a good prospect like SOR/Geekie.



Then someone else will pay the price. Andersson at this point is non-committal, and we are not just going to keep him if he doesn't want to commit to anyone.
I think you’re overvaluing salary-retention at this stage, but time will tell!
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I think you’re overvaluing salary-retention at this stage, but time will tell!
Someone else pointed it out, but I just can't see ownership being willing to retain roughly 12m of Kadri (3 years + this season). I think they've already swallowed their pride enough about having to rebuild/heavy retool (if the rumors are true), but that kind of retention is a lot to ask for. Coleman on the other hand is a different story. Even if I was an owner I wouldn't want to be retaining anything longer than 2 years if it is 50% on a contract as large as Kadri's. With the cap going up, it should not be an issue for anyone to take on cap, especially if we have to take on a contract back that has less term or is a cap dump.
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Another interesting tidbit from the person who cites Danielson + a 1st on the table for Ras:

Andersson’s ask was apparently $7.25 x 8 years, which Calgary didn’t agree to. Just to quell the 8/9 million talk.
If that’s true and the Flames and Andersson couldn’t meet in the middle, you can put to bed any of the talk that the Flames’ ownership will do anything to avoid a rebuild.
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I'm really indifferent to the idea of moving Kadri. I'm okay with either scenario. They can trade him and I'm alright with it and they can keep him for the em of his deal and I'm okay with it. His contract is the trickiest to move. 35 going on 36 years old with 21m left owing on 3 years left? Even with retention it's a tough cookie. A team really needs to be in love with the cup experience and leadership for their team to make a deal. And add in that the Flames likely value him more than what teams could offer.

A player wanting to be here carries excessive value for this franchise.
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Someone else pointed it out, but I just can't see ownership being willing to retain roughly 12m of Kadri (3 years + this season). I think they've already swallowed their pride enough about having to rebuild/heavy retool (if the rumors are true), but that kind of retention is a lot to ask for. Coleman on the other hand is a different story. Even if I was an owner I wouldn't want to be retaining anything longer than 2 years if it is 50% on a contract as large as Kadri's. With the cap going up, it should not be an issue for anyone to take on cap, especially if we have to take on a contract back that has less term or is a cap dump.
I don’t think it’s the $$$ as much as the fact that you only get 2 retention slots. One is already used. Tying the other up for 3 more seasons limits a rebuilding team’s ability to get the best return for its other assets, so the price would have to be very high.
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