2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[NewFan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

the justification is to make the best deal and set the team up for years to come not just take the first offer that comes across the desk.

Most massive "overpays" are closer to the deadline...history has shown as much. Even Lindholms "early" trade was Jan 31st.

Are we waiting "overpays" for our players? I think Conroy is waiting just a fair value than overpays. I expect most of people will be disappointed the return, but for me, it will mean the team is really starting to rebuild.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bingo

What happens if the demands weren't met? Is it no longer an actual reason to make a trade because you eliminated by suggesting it's fabricated (prepared)?

Preparing and excuse are more of that eliminate any opposing views by boxing them in stuff that is such a weak way to argue a point.

The reality is that we unforunately will never get to know that info because we will never know what the offers were.

If it comes down to that and Kadri and Coleman aren't moved there is an equal chance that the offers just weren't good enough, or maybe Conroy just set his demands too high - we will never know

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

How many teams have a bad culture by that definition? If 90% of teams fit under that definition is the Flames culture going to be hard to replicate even if you trade every player on the roster.

I go by people who've been around the league who've had stops in Calgary for any sort of gauge. GMs who've had other stops. Players who were acquired. Otherwise, I'd agree, it's hard to differentiate from the outside looking in.

How Burke speaks about Calgary is a good example. He's talked at lengths about how the expectations of players being active in the community was exceptional when he was with the Flames and a gold standard. How family-oriented the team is and how they treat families, spouses, etc. There's nuance to it and all teams do a reasonably good job, but you just get the sense this stuff is a little bit of a separator in Calgary and 'first class organization' tends to get thrown around with how they deal with people.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

That Lebrun clip is extremely concerning. "Flames are in no mans land. They need to be real and start listening to offers on vets".

So we aren't even listening to offers?

Yep
You’re right, they are NOT listening to offers.
You missed the best part too (off camera). Lebrun went on to CONFIRM that Maloney has shoved his fingers in Conroys ear holes, has been yelling “LALA LA LA LALALA” for a week and has asked for the Nobel peace prize

[Rhett44]

No one even knows what the offers we received are. Maybe we already received the best offer we will get. Or maybe it is yet to come.

All I know is there is a big risk you are taking with waiting until the deadline with injury potential. Whether that risk is 1% or 5%, it is still a risk no matter how you argue it.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

All I know is there is a big risk you are taking with waiting until the deadline with injury potential. Whether that risk is 1% or 5%, it is still a risk no matter how you argue it.

Everybody knows this. It doesn't mean you should just accept an offer you don't like.

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by NewFan

Are we waiting "overpays" for our players? I think Conroy is waiting just a fair value than overpays. I expect most of people will be disappointed the return, but for me, it will mean the team is really starting to rebuild.

Any deals that are offered to CC are fair value, regardless if those deals are disappointing or not. If multiple teams offer what some might call disappointing packages, that is by definition fair value, but might not be a fair return from the Flames pov.

CC's job is to maximize that return and his only leverage is the TDL date.
No issues with waiting until the last minute to extract maximum value, but he's got to pull the trigger by the TDL. Getting seventy cents on the dollar is better than getting nothing at all.

[The EBUG's EBUG]

The fear I have is not whether or not they're listening to offers, of course they're listening to offers, that's Conroy's job. My fear is whether or not they're setting a market that is in a good faith effort to move Kadri and/or Coleman.

My takeaway from Lebrun is not that their head is in the sand and they won't even take calls, my takeaway/fear is that they've set a price that is so high that it probably won't get matched and we end up at a place where Andersson is the only guy that gets moved and we get a press conference the day after the deadline saying "Oh yea our valuation just wasn't met".

Which, sure, can be true, don't give them away for nothing, but also they need to be realistic about their valuations and I sure hope they are doing that.

[taxbuster]

The impatience of some people is astounding.


Things take time to mature and evolve, people have to make evaluations based on not what is proposed here...but what is ACTUALLY proposed. Sometimes that's a hard pass in mere moments, but more often than not, if the offer/discussion is at least sensible....that takes more time.


Even on CP....people propose trades ranging from the sublime to the ridiculous, and snap judgments are made...that just ain't how it works in the real world.


I'm sure that Rhett and like parties negotiate multi-zillion dollar deals in mere seconds, with little consideration...but most people actually tasked with those chores don't do that.

[Royle9]

I know they’ve received offers on Rasmus, some good but nothing “great” yet.
I’d wager they’ve probably had discussions about the other guys, not sure on offers but I’ve asked in a round about way.

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[getbak]

Originally Posted by Royle9

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[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

Any deals that are offered to CC are fair value, regardless if those deals are disappointing or not.

By that logic, Conroy should accept the first offer that comes along for any player, because every offer is fair. ‘You’ll give me a 7th in 2028 for Kadri with 50% retained? OK, done. The market has spoken!’

[ColossusXIII]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The reality is that we unforunately will never get to know that info because we will never know what the offers were.

If it comes down to that and Kadri and Coleman aren't moved there is an equal chance that the offers just weren't good enough, or maybe Conroy just set his demands too high - we will never know

If the offers aren't good enough I think that can only mean that the prices were indeed set too high.

I guess I view it less as a set price that must be met and more of an auction with the Flames essentially setting the minimum price with their own bid.

I have huge confidence in Conroy to find the best trade thats out there and I've got no issue with him taking this to the deadline if he believes the appreciation in returns will be worth it, but he can't dictate the market and if the return is midling that says more about what the market would bear than his ability as a GM.

The only outcome I'd be frustrated with would be if they aren't moved at all as it either means they never really wanted to move them in the first place or they themselves were the top bidder, which are kind of two ways of saying the same thing and (I think) would be a mistake in either framing. A bottom 5 team shouldn't be valuing productive 30+ year olds more than the actual contenders do.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

CC's job is to maximize that return and his only leverage is the TDL date.

Not really, offers have expiry dates and GMs can seek relief from other teams with similar players that are available. So I would argue he has almost no leverage.

He needs multiple parties to be interested enough to drive the cost up to his asking price.

Failing that, he'll have to take the best offer on Ras and that's it. Or sign him as Warrener suggests. You can't lose him for nothing though.

Coleman and Kadri deals can take a back seat.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I know they’ve received offers on Rasmus, some good but nothing “great” yet.
I’d wager they’ve probably had discussions about the other guys, not sure on offers but I’ve asked in a round about way.

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[activeStick]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I can tell you right now I have never had an inkling the Flames are looking to move Frost. They really like the player.

This is a bit surprising to hear since a few days ago, I was curious so I checked and Frost is deployed slightly less than Sharangovich but basically the same (15:40/game), while everyone else excluding the 4th line guys and Zary get 1-4 min more each game. When I saw that a few days ago, I assumed they were a bit meh on Frost (along with Zary and Sharangovich this year too).

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by dino7c

#4 on a bad or mid team maybe

Big Z is so interesting to me, as I find that Flames fans seem to overrate him or underrate him. Zadorov would be a better option than Brent Burns on the Avs and Lybushkin on that 2nd pair on the Stars quite easily (at least to me), who again to me are good teams. But in your defense, Zadorov doesn't crack the top 4 on a team like Minnesota.

He has his imperfections, but isn't really a guy that I'd say is a #4 on a mid team when you look at the 2 examples above.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I know they’ve received offers on Rasmus, some good but nothing “great” yet.
I’d wager they’ve probably had discussions about the other guys, not sure on offers but I’ve asked in a round about way.

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They should just take the OBO now so the complainers can come in and complain about the return. /s.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bingo

What happens if the demands weren't met? Is it no longer an actual reason to make a trade because you eliminated by suggesting it's fabricated (prepared)?

Preparing and excuse are more of that eliminate any opposing views by boxing them in stuff that is such a weak way to argue a point.

Then the demands weren’t market appropriate.

Overvaluing your own players is a poison pill, as is undervaluing. ‘Tis the job of a good GM to set a direction, and execute to that direction within the confines of the market. Extract best value available, don’t manage to your own dreams disconnected from reality.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Then the demands weren’t market appropriate.

Overvaluing your own players is a poison pill, as is undervaluing. ‘Tis the job of a good GM to set a direction, and execute to that direction within the confines of the market. Extract best value available, don’t manage to your own dreams disconnected from reality.

I hope Conroy gets the 1st and prospect he wants for Ras, but maybe the only person crazy enough to offer that was BT last season.

You can't let BT set the market as he is a known overpayer. Not to mention that offer was for two playoff runs with Ras, not one.

Flames might have fallen for illusion last year and may pay the price this year as a result.

Interesting to see how this plays out.