12-26-2025, 04:24 PM
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#17361
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by All In Good Time
No
We need to trade them right now no matter what the return
We’ve held on to all of our vets for too long, haven’t moved any of them for years
We need to guarantee as low a pick as possible for as many drafts as possible
That’s the only way we will win
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Sure am glad you're not Flames GM.
(You wouldn't have a job for more than about 5 minutes with that approach anyway...makes me wonder how you do IRL.)
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12-26-2025, 04:32 PM
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#17362
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxbuster
Sure am glad you're not Flames GM.
(You wouldn't have a job for more than about 5 minutes with that approach anyway...makes me wonder how you do IRL.)
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Ha ha
I’m just falling into line with team tank
I actually think the high draft picks should come organically the “no matter the return” and “haven’t traded any vets” lines were typed with the tongue firmly planted in the cheek
And
I do just fine IRL actually
Last edited by All In Good Time; 12-26-2025 at 04:46 PM.
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12-26-2025, 04:37 PM
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#17363
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All In Good Time
No
We need to trade them right now no matter what the return
We’ve held on to all of our vets for too long, haven’t moved any of them for years
We need to guarantee as low a pick as possible for as many drafts as possible
That’s the only way we will win
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12-26-2025, 04:44 PM
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#17364
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All In Good Time
No
We need to trade them right now no matter what the return
We’ve held on to all of our vets for too long, haven’t moved any of them for years
We need to guarantee as low a pick as possible for as many drafts as possible
That’s the only way we will win
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Where is This Post Is Terrible when you need them?
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12-26-2025, 05:08 PM
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#17365
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
That is because of a horrendous start that had them as the very worst team league wide winning 2 of their first 13. They have played at a 96pt pace since over a quarter of the season (last 24 games). They need to move these guys or they will likely push for the 8-13th pick
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So what is the answer? Is it to fire sale the assets to stop the ascent?
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12-26-2025, 05:14 PM
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#17366
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First Line Centre
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I think the next Edmonton will decide a lot. Should one game decide what we do? No.
But I think it might.
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12-26-2025, 05:29 PM
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#17367
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
So what is the answer? Is it to fire sale the assets to stop the ascent?
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Yes if by fire sale you mean shopping these 3 key veterans and aiming to get the highest return but prioritize moving them out and getting younger guys in so they can stay near the bottom of the standings instead of having their best players get a year older and carry this team to another finish in the mushy middle.
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12-26-2025, 05:31 PM
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#17368
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Yes if by fire sale you mean shopping these 3 key veterans and aiming to get the highest return but prioritize moving them out and getting younger guys in so they can stay near the bottom of the standings instead of having their best players get a year older and carry this team to another finish in the mushy middle.
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And if the highest return comes in late February or early March that is when you trade them? Or is the priority doing a fire sale to get young guys in the lineup and stay near the bottom of the standings? Because by all reports they are already shopping those players.
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12-26-2025, 06:24 PM
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#17369
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
And if the highest return comes in late February or early March that is when you trade them? Or is the priority doing a fire sale to get young guys in the lineup and stay near the bottom of the standings? Because by all reports they are already shopping those players.
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Has it been confirmed we are shopping anyone except Andersson?
I have seen rumors that several teams are calling about Kadri and Coleman. But I have also heard we have not made those players available. And that we would not trade them unless those players asked out.
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12-26-2025, 06:33 PM
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#17370
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
Has it been confirmed we are shopping anyone except Andersson?
I have seen rumors that several teams are calling about Kadri and Coleman. But I have also heard we have not made those players available. And that we would not trade them unless those players asked out.
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Shopping on the open market? No the Flames aren’t making calls letting teams know they’re trading Coleman or Kadri.
Are they fielding calls on trades from other teams for those players? Yes, they’re taking calls frequently and if someone makes an offer they can’t refuse I’d wager they’d present it to the player (if needed) and go from there.
So it’s a bit of a grey area, but they haven’t been trying to dump either guy for spare parts or out of desperation, they’re making it known they’re comfortable hanging on to both if you’re going to try and “wizard” them in a terrible deal.
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12-26-2025, 06:36 PM
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#17371
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Shopping on the open market? No the Flames aren’t making calls letting teams know they’re trading Coleman or Kadri.
Are they fielding calls on trades from other teams for those players? Yes, they’re taking calls frequently and if someone makes an offer they can’t refuse I’d wager they’d present it to the player (if needed) and go from there.
So it’s a bit of a grey area, but they haven’t been trying to dump either guy for spare parts or out of desperation, they’re making it known they’re comfortable hanging on to both if you’re going to try and “wizard” them in a terrible deal.
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Ya, they ain’t in fire sale mode but they are listening to offers on the players.
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12-26-2025, 06:52 PM
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#17372
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Shopping on the open market? No the Flames aren’t making calls letting teams know they’re trading Coleman or Kadri.
Are they fielding calls on trades from other teams for those players? Yes, they’re taking calls frequently and if someone makes an offer they can’t refuse I’d wager they’d present it to the player (if needed) and go from there.
So it’s a bit of a grey area, but they haven’t been trying to dump either guy for spare parts or out of desperation, they’re making it known they’re comfortable hanging on to both if you’re going to try and “wizard” them in a terrible deal.
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I understand, but let's be honest, every team in the league should be listening to offers on any of their players even if they are not planning a trade. I am sure if you want to over pay for an elite player, other teams would be listening as well. That is part of the job.
I do hope they shift gear to actively shopping all 3, rather than just taking calls.
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12-26-2025, 07:32 PM
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#17373
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Shopping on the open market? No the Flames aren’t making calls letting teams know they’re trading Coleman or Kadri.
Are they fielding calls on trades from other teams for those players? Yes, they’re taking calls frequently and if someone makes an offer they can’t refuse I’d wager they’d present it to the player (if needed) and go from there.
So it’s a bit of a grey area, but they haven’t been trying to dump either guy for spare parts or out of desperation, they’re making it known they’re comfortable hanging on to both if you’re going to try and “wizard” them in a terrible deal.
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Just because a team shops a player, it doesn’t mean they are desperate or willing to accept spare parts.
IMO you’re describing a situation where the team prefers keeping the player over trading them.
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12-26-2025, 07:35 PM
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#17374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Just because a team shops a player, it doesn’t mean they are desperate or willing to accept spare parts.
IMO you’re describing a situation where the team prefers keeping the player over trading them.
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Interesting interpretation, but what he’s actually describing is a situation where it’s a bit of a grey area, they haven’t been trying to dump either guy for spare parts or out of desperation, but they’re making it known they’re comfortable hanging on to both if you’re going to try and “wizard” them in a terrible deal.
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12-26-2025, 07:36 PM
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#17375
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
I think Ras is an obvious trade.
You can make the case that Coleman is 1.5 years away from leaving the team so it makes sense to move him now at peak value if a great offer comes in. He's loved, but a move like that for an exciting prospect and pick would be defensible.
Kadri is a lot less defensible. Last night I was chatting with a casual fan that has corporate season tickets. He was shocked at the idea of trading Kadri. It made zero sense to him. I was surprised.
He's a good old boy oil patch guy, wears a Kadri blasty to the games with pride.
That's the kind of fan and reaction the Flames are worried about.
I know there are season ticket holders and high rollers here on this forum, this next comment is NOT directed at them.
That Kadri fan with the four good seats at the Dome, and all the food and Bev dollars he spends, and all the jerseys he buys guests, is worth about 100 of us normie fans to the Flames.
That's why Flames/Malonney/Conroy are so cautious about hyping up a rebuild. And it's why they won't move Kadri IMO until one of the kids (not in net) eclipses him.
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The idea that the fan you describe wouldn’t be just as interested in a different, younger star player is crazy to me. This team traded Iginla and the fans hung around. Trading Kadri would be a blip.
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12-26-2025, 07:48 PM
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#17376
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
I think the next Edmonton will decide a lot. Should one game decide what we do? No.
But I think it might.
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Why would you think that game would somehow dictate what they do?
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12-26-2025, 08:22 PM
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#17378
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Interesting interpretation, but what he’s actually describing is a situation where it’s a bit of a grey area, they haven’t been trying to dump either guy for spare parts or out of desperation, but they’re making it known they’re comfortable hanging on to both if you’re going to try and “wizard” them in a terrible deal.
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That is where some of the frustration comes in for some, some think the Flames should fire sale them for spare parts for draft position. Conroy seems content on waiting to get proper value for his assets before moving them.
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12-26-2025, 08:24 PM
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#17379
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
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No ideas on this one
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12-26-2025, 08:26 PM
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#17380
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First Line Centre
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A flame is out or gone
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