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Old 12-14-2025, 01:09 PM   #3401
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Transportation costs must double the price of it even if you could access it
Existing transportation routes are expensive, but Belarus has resorted to dumping it at below market prices to compensate. China has been buying up a lot of Belarus' potash in recent years to take advantage of that.

If the US does have a plan (which is far from a given), maybe they figure they can bully Lithuania into allowing transport to Klaipeda where it can be exported to the US at fire sale prices.
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Old 12-15-2025, 10:29 AM   #3402
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So do massive tariffs on our potash. Net result is potash buyers get screwed either way. Nice one Donald.
I think it's because none of the farm states voted for him, so he's really punishing the farmers.

Or it could be face eating leopards.
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Old 12-15-2025, 03:59 PM   #3403
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The big lesson here is it shows that holding your own citizens hostage can get you want you want.
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Old 12-18-2025, 06:40 PM   #3404
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What the US wants from Canada on trade:

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What the US wants from Canada on trade:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj0wjvjm4po
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Carney mentioned just yesterday that supply management is completely off the table, so the U.S. is gonna be s*** out of luck on that one.

As for the other stuff on that list, I’ve never heard of any of them, outside of maybe the digital streaming thing and the liquor ban. Do any of those things really affect the U.S. at all, other than the booze ban? I’m guessing probably not. They’ve been pissing and moaning about the dairy thing for years, I get that. But it seems like the rest of those gripes are just a lot of random crap thrown against the wall to see if the Canadians cave on any of them.

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Old 12-18-2025, 08:57 PM   #3407
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Carney mentioned just yesterday that supply management is completely off the table, so the U.S. is gonna be s*** out of luck on that one.

As for the other stuff on that list, I’ve never heard of any of them, outside of maybe the digital streaming thing. Do any of those things really affect the U.S. one way or the other? I’m guessing probably not. They’ve been pissing and moaning about the dairy thing for years, I get that. But it seems like the rest of those gripes are just a lot of random crap thrown against the wall to see if the Canadians cave on any of them.
Its all bull. Canada has those Dairy tariffs because we produce FAR more dairy products than we could possibly consume, it make no sense at all to bring in outside dairy sources in addition to which the 'Big Dairy' cartels would never allow it.

Supply management is a non-starter, so forget that nonsense.

You are correct. It is complete crap being thrown at the wall so the Administration can seem to be justifying their actions when its rather clear that they have no idea what they're talking about.

Much ado about nothing.

We're boycotting American Booze...who in their right mind would think its high time that we started digging in on American milk and cheese?

Complete tone-deaf nonsense.
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The interesting thing in that article is it suggests that no Tariff has ever been paid on American dairy and that they aren’t near the Tarriff limit. Now eliminating Tarriff could change that as the market becomes more attractive but it doesn’t seem that it is doing that much as of now.

But that list isn’t terrible at all. Like if that’s their walkway offer which it wouldn’t be that isnt economically destructive to Canada
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Also, the liquor thing is an easy fix for the Americans. Drop the tariffs and we’ll happily put your booze back on the shelves. It’s that simple.
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Also, the liquor thing is an easy fix for the Americans. Drop the tariffs and we’ll happily put your booze back on the shelves. It’s that simple.
I dunno man...some of my favourite wines are Napa Valley wines and since the giant cheeto monster took over I've stopped buying them entirely and switched to alternatives.

And guess what? I've found a lot of them to be better and likely wont be going back.

Tariffs or no tariffs, I think I'm done with them. At least for a while.
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Oh! And American beer sucks anyways, so thats not any ginormous loss.
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I'd be willing to give them all those things for no tariffs on our exports. Supply management is a net negative to Canadians, and the booze thing was a retaliation for the tariffs so once the tariffs are gone you'd pull it anyway. The other stuff doesn't matter.
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Oh! And American beer sucks anyways, so thats not any ginormous loss.

Gross malt-fortified coolers. I can’t believe Mike’s Hard allowed that travesty.
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Who wants RFK jr. Approved raw milk and dairy anyway? If he's the guy setting standards maybe keep it for cleaning whale goo out of your van.
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I'd be willing to give them all those things for no tariffs on our exports. Supply management is a net negative to Canadians, and the booze thing was a retaliation for the tariffs so once the tariffs are gone you'd pull it anyway. The other stuff doesn't matter.
Yeah that list of demands seems pretty light / easy to meet outside supply management.

Which I’m not sure why people want anyways .

You can always still boycott American goods on the shelves
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Will Alberta's electricity exports to Montana trip up Canada's trade deal?

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7022156
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Trump now threatening to hit Canada with a 100% tariff if the trade deal with China goes ahead.

And it’s back to Governor Carney. Entirely predictable. His focus will be on wrecking our economy.
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Isn’t that the point of Tariffs ? To make foreign goods more expensive for the importers so they use domestic / force the imported good supplier to move operations to America ?

And generate tax revenue for the government for these tariffs

What am I missing here .

The only Q would have been if the end product producer took a margin hit by keeping prices the same or raised them .
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Trump now threatening to hit Canada with a 100% tariff if the trade deal with China goes ahead.

And it’s back to Governor Carney. Entirely predictable. His focus will be on wrecking our economy.
Someone didn’t like the Davos speech..
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