Rate your current mental health level out of 10

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

This is autism. Its not that autistic people miss social cues, its just that the 7% or so the vast majority of the population and world seem to get by on just fine don't compute well when you're also getting the other 93%. Its a sliding scale. Maybe the eyebrow thing is just something unique to you that you noticed, but if its that plus cataloging the way they adjust their posture, analyzing the timbre of the breath they take before speaking, cramming their chosen words through a decoder because everyone lies and you need things in truth form, plus plus plus plus then yea, autism.

The exhaustion you're speaking of is the mental drain of masking, where all of this is very much real and very much going on and you have to fake like its not WHILE ALSO throwing down a high level that even a neurotypical would find very challenging. In your case I'm guessing you make good dough in a situation where appearances and people skills are paramount, which in my case would be hell.

A CEO tolerates a guy who's full of crap?

Fata, I don't want to have autism. How would one go to get it checked out. Not like there's a cure or anything.

I'm sitting here and I can tell you where every one of my co-workers are because I track them. The one guy schits at least three times a day I see his shoes because he eats a tonne of salad everyday for some reason. It's pointless yet its constantly in my head. Dumb crap that does not matter. I can do my job in my sleep. But the day is filled with chatter.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by RichieRich

Thanks for the extra info.
The emotions part got drowned and buried in chocolate and exercise; instead of beer resorted to wine gums and bubble tea; too late for "young" depending on your idea of young.


Questionnaire done and highly conclusive. downloaded link and will work through over Christmas break. Will look for ebook of Scattered Minds.

I am not sure I would dedicate to going through the workbook page by page. Do it if it helps, but I have been mostly just scanning to see what it is about.

Hey, at least you are balancing the chocolate with exercise. I am halfway there.

Seriously, though, if you are exercising, that is a significant component and the #1 thing to help with ADD. Imagine how bad you would be without exercise and that is me!!

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Fata, I don't want to have autism. How would one go to get it checked out. Not like there's a cure or anything.

I'm sitting here and I can tell you where every one of my co-workers are because I track them. The one guy schits at least three times a day I see his shoes because he eats a tonne of salad everyday for some reason. It's pointless yet its constantly in my head. Dumb crap that does not matter.

Not to cast doubt but I would not think it is autism first. As I said it is very indicative of ADD. Like everything else, talk to your doctor.

If it is autism, it is what it is and you can deal with it. It is not a death sentence or mean you are the R word you love so much. Once you know you can learn to manage to your advantage.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Fata, I don't want to have autism. How would one go to get it checked out. Not like there's a cure or anything.

I'm sitting here and I can tell you where every one of my co-workers are because I track them. The one guy schits at least three times a day I see his shoes because he eats a tonne of salad everyday for some reason. It's pointless yet its constantly in my head. Dumb crap that does not matter.

DM'd.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Titan2

Not to cast doubt but I would not think it is autism first. As I said it is very indicative of ADD. Like everything else, talk to your doctor.

If it is autism, it is what it is and you can deal with it. It is not a death sentence or mean you are the R word you love so much. Once you know you can learn to manage to your advantage.

Where's that GIF of Scott Bakula in Quantum Leap. I'm a re-trd?

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Where's that GIF of Scott Bakula in Quantum Leap. I'm a re-trd?

You were just saying how you post without thinking and then regret it....

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Titan2

You were just saying how you post without thinking and then regret it....

That was actually in the show.

[MrSector9]

Current level would be 3, heading into 4 lol

I missed so much in this thread, it took forever to catch up, so I will address some things I seen with what my thoughts are.

I was diagnosed with ADD a few years ago as an adult when I was in therapy and said "yeah I might have add" and she just said "WHAT, you ever never diagnosed? you are the definition of it" so that lead to learning more and reading. Not on medication but partially self medicate with the reefers.

As for my level of 3/4, recently my mother passed away. Was not sudden in one sense as I have been waiting for the call for a long time now but still a shock to the system. How I feel about it is what lowers my level, according to the world I should be more distraught but I look at it just as a nuisance. I have a real weird way to look at death now and while internally I feel fine, trying to explain how I feel is exhausting as everyone is worried about me, but also feel that I am bottling it up.

The reason for my outlook honestly revolves around the amount of death I have seen throughout my life, therapy, religious philosophy (I am not religious but read a lot) and then add in heavy HEAVY doses of psychedelics which has lead me where before I would have been on the atheist side of things, but now I would lean on the spiritual side since I couldn't tell you exactly what is at play so call it the universe, god, Brahman, the simulation theory, crystals, astrology, multiple dimensions... I don't know

So while I greatly miss her, it does not upset me as I know nothing of this world (Maya) is permanent or necessarily reality but that leads to guilt as I feel I should be reacting in a different way based on a lifetime of seeing how people react when someone dies.

TLDR: I did so much DMT that I am not as sad as I think I should be about my mother passing because Brahman told me the world is temporary and there is nothing to worry about, so I battle guilt based in my own mind and question my sanity.

Dark Humour time - when I called the funeral parlour I introduced myself as the following "Hey there I am _______, I think you might have something that belongs to me" and there was just silence on the other end of the phone....

[RichieRich]

Hey MrS9 - that was a good share.
People process stress, grieving, others opinions, etc differently. What makes one persons methodology "right" and anothers "wrong"? If your view is of a greater spiritual journey then perhaps that's the right way as it eases ones mind about something you can't do anything about anyways.

[Locke]

Dark Humour has saved my sanity more times than I can remember. Yeah, you might get branded as kind of dark and uncaring, but if it helps you cope then roll with it!

Laugh at a funeral. It provides strength to those who cant.

Tell stories, it helps people remember the person rather than the 'Corpse in the Box.'

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Locke

Dark Humour has saved my sanity more times than I can remember. Yeah, you might get branded as kind of dark and uncaring, but if it helps you cope then roll with it!

Laugh at a funeral. It provides strength to those who cant.

Tell stories, it helps people remember the person rather than the 'Corpse in the Box.'

That is a waaay worse game than Dick in a box. Nothing beats carrot in a box though.

Spoiler!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Titan2

That is a waaay worse game than Dick in a box. Nothing beats carrot in a box though.

Spoiler!

His look of disgust and the woman "Jimmy's just plowing on!" make me laugh every time.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by photon

My son is both ADD and on the spectrum, and this describes him perfectly. One of the things we had to learn well early on after he was diagnosed was how to help him manage his time and bring things into the "now" before they're actually "now"... still a work in progress

We're looking at support for his job hunt where they also help with helping him use tools to manage this for himself and other things to help with having a job which is new to him.



When my son was 8-12 we went through quite a few different meds trying different things.. we went through the same cycle of enormous hope and then not really seeing anything different quite a few times until we found the one that worked for him (Vyvanse as others have mentioned, and Intuniv though he eventually didn't need that anymore). So sometimes it is a process.

Hope you find something that helps improve things!!

Sorry, I just saw this now. Thanks for the feedback man. I've often been accused of being on the spectrum by friends. I have one friend who spent a bit of time researching my behaviours and is convinced I'm some form of autistic (he says I "info dump" all the time). I myself was convinced I had Asperger's at one point a long time ago.

I'm really looking forward to my first session on Wednesday. So many things going through my head constantly these past few weeks. I mean like more than usual lol.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Titan2

That is a waaay worse game than Dick in a box. Nothing beats carrot in a box though.

Spoiler!

Sucks so much that he's gone. 8 out of 10 Cats is still good but not nearly as good as it was with him on it. "I bent over and set off the sprinklers..." lolol.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Sucks so much that he's gone. 8 out of 10 Cats is still good but not nearly as good as it was with him on it. "I bent over and set off the sprinklers..." lolol.

I thought you were talking about Jimmy, but you meant Lock...he was goddamned brilliant! Taken too soon!

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Sorry, I just saw this now. Thanks for the feedback man. I've often been accused of being on the spectrum by friends. I have one friend who spent a bit of time researching my behaviours and is convinced I'm some form of autistic (he says I "info dump" all the time). I myself was convinced I had Asperger's at one point a long time ago.

I'm really looking forward to my first session on Wednesday. So many things going through my head constantly these past few weeks. I mean like more than usual lol.

I've never officially checked for it, but one thing I've wondered is whether I have OCPD tendencies along with the ADHD. I don't think I have full blown OCPD based on the summary analysis, and my "tools" seem logical so I'm pretty sure it's not OCD (OCD and OCPD are not the same). As a personality disorder, sometimes it's hard to diagnose because the person doesn't think there's something wrong with the way they're thinking, even if it frustrates them.

As mentioned , your story resonated with me. For me, I think I was just so all over the place that I needed a form of structure on how I engage/understand things. The way of thinking, habits, methods etc. were intended as a cross reference to how I aim to understand things, so that I can compare to others perceiving things. This is especially true since I constantly chain ideas together and want to understand an idea in full vs just small parts of an idea. I also like understanding ideas in full because I enjoy process improvement.

I think that ended up manifesting in some type of specific structure/methodology which is potentially indicative of OCPD. The criteria for OCPD is a little strange at times though. It almost seems contradictory. It does lean heavily into extreme analysis, structure and specificity though. I think I attempted to cater the design of these habits/methods to round out and offset ADHD tendencies.

I'm not horribly rigid, but I do get annoyed when I watch people make the same mistakes over and over in a short duration and get upset about it. I perceive the self inflicted stress is stupid, when a simple change in approach could potentially eliminate the stressor. I'm not anal about stuff being in specific places and structure. But as an example, when people have forks, knives, spoons etc. piled together in the same drawer and they're bitching about how damn hard it is to find a specific utensil all the time, I have to roll my eyes and walk away and wonder why they don't understand the concept of a cutlery sorter.

I think I am floating between a 4 and a 6. Once certain one time projects/headaches are sorted, that number will increase a little bit.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

I've never officially checked for it, but one thing I've wondered is whether I have OCPD tendencies along with the ADHD. I don't think I have full blown OCPD based on the summary analysis, and my "tools" seem logical so I'm pretty sure it's not OCD (OCD and OCPD are not the same). As a personality disorder, sometimes it's hard to diagnose because the person doesn't think there's something wrong with the way they're thinking, even if it frustrates them.

As mentioned , your story resonated with me. For me, I think I was just so all over the place that I needed a form of structure on how I engage/understand things. The way of thinking, habits, methods etc. were intended as a cross reference to how I aim to understand things, so that I can compare to others perceiving things. This is especially true since I constantly chain ideas together and want to understand an idea in full vs just small parts of an idea. I also like understanding ideas in full because I enjoy process improvement.

I think that ended up manifesting in some type of specific structure/methodology which is potentially indicative of OCPD. The criteria for OCPD is a little strange at times though. It almost seems contradictory. It does lean heavily into extreme analysis, structure and specificity though. I think I attempted to cater the design of these habits/methods to round out and offset ADHD tendencies.

I'm not horribly rigid, but I do get annoyed when I watch people make the same mistakes over and over in a short duration and get upset about it. I perceive the self inflicted stress is stupid, when a simple change in approach could potentially eliminate the stressor. I'm not anal about stuff being in specific places and structure. But as an example, when people have forks, knives, spoons etc. piled together in the same drawer and they're bitching about how damn hard it is to find a specific utensil all the time, I have to roll my eyes and walk away and wonder why they don't understand the concept of a cutlery sorter.

I think I am floating between a 4 and a 6. Once certain one time projects/headaches are sorted, that number will increase a little bit.

It's interesting you mention OCP. I had my call with the Psychiatrist this afternoon, and he confirmed the ADHD diagnosis but also suspects some Autism (Asperger's / High Functioning) and also mentioned OCP (but made a point of clarifying not OCD).

I have some assessments to complete and send back to him, and some other instructions for working on my ADHD. He's also confirmed that I should start taking the Vyvanse (but also reduce my Effexor dosage).

I'm excited and relieved to finally be getting some help. Also pretty terrified tbh. I'm really glad I posted about this here. The responses and messages have been amazing. This community we have here, man. I take it for granted a lot of times, but it's truly something special. There should be some kind of like Nobel award for people like Bingo who think up things like this and actually go through with it and keep the lights on etc.

Anyway, here's to moving forward...

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

It's interesting you mention OCP. I had my call with the Psychiatrist this afternoon, and he confirmed the ADHD diagnosis but also suspects some Autism (Asperger's / High Functioning) and also mentioned OCP (but made a point of clarifying not OCD).

I have some assessments to complete and send back to him, and some other instructions for working on my ADHD. He's also confirmed that I should start taking the Vyvanse (but also reduce my Effexor dosage).

I'm excited and relieved to finally be getting some help. Also pretty terrified tbh. I'm really glad I posted about this here. The responses and messages have been amazing. This community we have here, man. I take it for granted a lot of times, but it's truly something special. There should be some kind of like Nobel award for people like Bingo who think up things like this and actually go through with it and keep the lights on etc.

Anyway, here's to moving forward...

Omni Consumer Products? Are you...are you Robocop?

[Dion]

nm

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Locke

Omni Consumer Products? Are you...are you Robocop?

lol. I might be closer to ED-209 most days.

(I didn't realize the D is supposed to be included, so I guess OCPD is the proper acronym. Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder.)