2025 Cavalry FC and CPL thread

[browna]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

You make a good point. That said, the league/owners are crazy to back out right now, the league will grow after the buzz of a world cup. Especially if Canada plays well. Peoples anticipation for the world cup will be small compared to the hype after it.

I think the league is in fine shape, they have 5 of 8 teams that are stable if not growing, 1 new team coming into the league.

Well, within all my text, that was the point. The league as a whole have this summer to piggyback off the biggest related promotion they could ever have, that being a World Cup held in two Canadian cities.

The league planned to be at a different stage in the business model by 2025/26, but regardless, if they as a league can’t gain more widespread attention and traction after this summer, it’s hard to see how else they ever will make those gains and there will be a natural drop off of corporate support for a couple years.

Sure there are properly run teams who had managed through the challenges and deficits, but is 4 teams enough to sustain a league?

[Addick]

Originally Posted by shermanator

When Winnipeg gets a club back, and it's when, I hope the new ownership puts a better club forward. And I hope people support that new club with their wallets.

I completely agree with this and would even say that fans need to be willing to compromise. Forget not letting perfect be the enemy of good, they need to be willing to accept barely okay. However, ownership groups need to fully utilise this willingness for fans to compromise. Although Hamilton and Winnipeg started with similar situations, only one of the ownership groups utilised the aforementioned fan willingness. You could argue that this was a similar case for Edmonton and Halifax. The results speak for themselves.

Fans definitely need to show up, but owners can't half ass it when the fans do indeed show up.

[Bill Bumface]

I really want to be an old man still going to games with my kid decades later. Please hold on CPL.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I really want to be an old man still going to games with my kid decades later. Please hold on CPL.

Also pretty concerned with there seemingly only being 4 strong teams. Like Shermanator said, hopefully Supra is solid. York (I mean, "Inter Toronto" if the rumours are true) and Pacific have good opportunities to bounce back, but can CPL be viable with 4-6 teams and a revolving door? This year might literally be make or break. Get as many of the 8 viable as possible and get some quality expansion ASAP, or else.


The new USL Division 1 may be a landing zone if the worst happens (and it would likely also have Concacaf Champions Cup berths), but I have a lot of concerns. Forge would go for sure, and sure, the growth potential would be stronger, but with the minimum stadium requirements, I really worry about whether Cavalry would continue.

Would Spruce Meadows spring for a franchise fee in the new US Div 1 league, plus spring for a 15k seat stadium or play in McMahon (I have my doubts). Would CSEC buy them and do the same, also doubt that. Don't really want to find out either.

[shermanator]

CPL will be around as long as people want it around. But it's put up or shut up time for everyone in this country in that regard.

There needs to be enough commitment and effort from ownership to make their clubs a success. And as Addick said, people need to be willing to accept what's there (within reason of course) and do what they can to make it work financially.

I know I'm preaching to a bunch of posters who already do their part but after 11 years of the same message it feels like a lost cause.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

Also pretty concerned with there seemingly only being 4 strong teams. Like Shermanator said, hopefully Supra is solid. York (I mean, "Inter Toronto" if the rumours are true) and Pacific have good opportunities to bounce back, but can CPL be viable with 4-6 teams and a revolving door? This year might literally be make or break. Get as many of the 8 viable as possible and get some quality expansion ASAP, or else.


The new USL Division 1 may be a landing zone if the worst happens (and it would likely also have Concacaf Champions Cup berths), but I have a lot of concerns. Forge would go for sure, and sure, the growth potential would be stronger, but with the minimum stadium requirements, I really worry about whether Cavalry would continue.

Would Spruce Meadows spring for a franchise fee in the new US Div 1 league, plus spring for a 15k seat stadium or play in McMahon (I have my doubts). Would CSEC buy them and do the same, also doubt that. Don't really want to find out either.

I feel like Heathcott-Southern is a businessperson who makes decisions based on that. So, would they build the 15k seater? Sure, if you seek out this 5,000 venue for say five years. But it just seems unlikely that she’d plow money in and hope that it would turn out. I have no idea, but that’s just my take on that situation.

And no, the league can’t survive on 4 franchises. Other places need to get their businesses in order. That’s really what this is all about. There are plenty of supporters of the game across the country. If no one can figure out how to run a viable business in these cities though, it’s doomed.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Holy frick the Whitecaps beat LAFC on penalties!

They had 9 men at the end (late second yellow red card, BS call thought he got the ball) and an injury to Halbouni in extra time.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

Holy frick the Whitecaps beat LAFC on penalties!

They had 9 men at the end (late second yellow red card, BS call thought he got the ball) and an injury to Halbouni in extra time.

And a single sequence in extra time had LAFC hit the right post, the left post, then the bar. Absolutely insane.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by browna

Well, within all my text, that was the point. The league as a whole have this summer to piggyback off the biggest related promotion they could ever have, that being a World Cup held in two Canadian cities.

The league planned to be at a different stage in the business model by 2025/26, but regardless, if they as a league can’t gain more widespread attention and traction after this summer, it’s hard to see how else they ever will make those gains and there will be a natural drop off of corporate support for a couple years.

Sure there are properly run teams who had managed through the challenges and deficits, but is 4 teams enough to sustain a league?

I think the steady rise of MLS is going to help us. The absolute mega popularity of the NFL has a stranglehold on Canadians as well.

As MLS positions itself to rival the top leagues in Europe, I think soccer could outpace sports like NHL in popularity in the future. And what happens in the States, affects what happens here. Canadians may turn into bigger soccer fans if Americans do it first. Couple that with larger immigration numbers coming to Canada, and soccer may have a chance.

I just hope it survives long enough until we see that big growth.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I think the steady rise of MLS is going to help us. The absolute mega popularity of the NFL has a stranglehold on Canadians as well.

I hope so, but didn't the mega popularity of the NFL put the CFL on life support?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I hope so, but didn't the mega popularity of the NFL put the CFL on life support?

I wonder about that.

I frankly think the CFL did it to themselves insisting on the comically large field and the silly 3 downs and The Rouge, among other things. If the CFL played the same rules as the NFL, it would be more popular, not less.

If MLS becomes a global power league, the CPL popularity will grow because we play by the exact same rules. That's the beauty of soccer that we all play the same rules globally.

We just can't escape the cultural dominance of the USA, for better or worse.

[shermanator]

York United's rebrand to Inter Toronto is official.

But IMO the bigger news is that they are looking to move to Lamport Stadium and investing their own money to renovate it. Wasn't working in York.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by shermanator

York United's rebrand to Inter Toronto is official.

But IMO the bigger news is that they are looking to move to Lamport Stadium and investing their own money to renovate it. Wasn't working in York.

'Atletico' Ottawa and 'Inter' Toronto?

Laaaaaaaame.....

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Inter Toronto FC
AFC Toronto
Toronto FC

Could they get any more boring?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

Inter Toronto FC
AFC Toronto
Toronto FC

Could they get any more boring?

I can at least get behind 'Toronto FC.'

If you want to boil down European football naming nomenclature that is it at it's essence. They are a Football Club from this City. Fine. Its not fancy or original or whatever but theres nothing wrong with that.

Thats why the MLS team names are so laaaaaame!

What is 'United' about Atlanta?
Houston Dynamo?
Sporting Kansas City?
Inter Miami?
What is 'United' about Minnesota?
'Real' Salt Lake? What is Royal about Salt Lake?

Laaaaaaame.

[Locke]

Thats why I love the name Cavalry FC. (Despite my other gripes)

Its unique, its representative of the ownership and the venue and if you want to stretch it a little its synonymous with Calgary.

Calgary Cavalry FC. Great name. No notes.

They are a Football club, from Calgary that is owned by and plays in an Equestrian venue.

Like I said...no notes.

[Muta]

Meh, it's just a name. More interestingly is the stadium move. I used to walk around that stadium and neighborhood during my lunch breaks! It definitely needs some work. I'm no York/Inter fan, but I wish them the best of luck and hope this absolutely succeeds; the league needs it to.

[shermanator]

Whitecaps are up 2-0 over San Diego in the semifinals 11 minutes in. Winner faces Messi

For a team who's future was uncertain going into the season they've really outperformed even the highest expectations they had coming into this year

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Originally Posted by shermanator

Whitecaps are up 2-0 over San Diego in the semifinals 11 minutes in. Winner faces Messi

For a team who's future was uncertain going into the season they've really outperformed even the highest expectations they had coming into this year

They dominated San Diego, the score line is closer than the game was. With no natural CBs on the pitch. The job Sorensen has done turning that team around is something else. Robbed of coach of the year. They’re must watch TV this year

It’s wild seeing Ralph Priso step in as an emergency CB and play out of his mind for the Whitecaos when two seasons ago he was the worst player on the pitch at Spruce Meadows in a Can Champ game. Good for him.

[shermanator]

Nathan Ingham is out of contract and is apparently in discussions with Cavalry. Carducci is also out of contract and there have been rumblings for a while that he wanted to give Europe a shot.

Sources added Ingham's camp has been in discussions with Cavalry FC but no deal has materialized as of yet. It's unclear where things stand between Cavalry and long-time 'keeper Marco Carducci, who is also out of contract. Ingham and Carducci faced each other in the CPL Final in Ottawa.

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