11-09-2025, 07:08 PM
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#241
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Google --> Reschny, Cole
(Knock on wood)
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Cullen Potter too.
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11-09-2025, 07:10 PM
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#242
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
No, it doesn’t become easier when you have more talent to evaluate. It becomes harder.
Not really how it’s working, no. Players still have to want to go that route, and not all the best do.
You’re acting like “We can’t say for sure” for something you’ve provided no actual evidence of is somehow a bad conclusion.
What? Of the 27 A ranked skaters by Central Scouting, 15 play in the CHL, and a whopping 2 play in the NCAA (McKenna and Verhoeff, and they don’t even play in the same conference).
The majority of players that switched to the NCAA were undrafted players 19-21 years old. How much better were they than the players they replaced? Can you provide some evidence? As I said, we know recruiters expect them to be better than other non-CHL options, but that’s basically it. We don’t know if the vast majority are, or if they’re better than the players who graduated/went to the NHL/AHL, so you can’t just say they are “just cuz.”
Your claim is that McKenna has it much harder than any prospect that has gone through the NCAA in history, yeah? Can you point out the players he’s played against that make that true?
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The talent pool is definitely increasing in the NCAA every year. It has more to do with youth participation rates in the USA than players from Canada opting to play in the USA.
https://apnews.com/article/us-hockey...e88b2596986973
To be more accurate, it has more to do with youth participation rates increasing 15 years ago, and those players hitting the NCAA. I don't think it's so much individual standouts, but more the overall level of depth. Some of these this are also former junior players who have decided to play NCAA, with some players being in their mid-20,s.
Success is also very team dependent. Some NCAA teams won't give the freshmen the best opportunities right off the bat. Not because the don't deserve it, but because the team has a pre existing structure of rewards to vet players.
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11-09-2025, 07:10 PM
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#243
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
I thought Landon Dupont was the big get for 2027?
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You can have both at a draft that has DuPont leading the class and have a deep crop of Centers at the same time.
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11-09-2025, 07:33 PM
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#244
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I said it before. If McKenna can become Kucherov, then if Reschny becomes Point that seems pretty good.
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Don't forget about Gridin becoming Pastrnak
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11-09-2025, 07:35 PM
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#245
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Franchise Player
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Speaking of Dupont, I haven't seen how he's playing yet this year, but his production leaves a lot to be desired so far. Just 6 assists in 12 games at this point.
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11-09-2025, 07:38 PM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I just saw a mock that had us taking McKenna first-overall, and C Caleb Malhotra with our late-first. Ideal scenario.
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11-09-2025, 07:38 PM
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#247
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Don't know the exact stats but I feel like the success rate of exceptional status defensemen is pretty low.
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11-09-2025, 07:44 PM
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#248
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Speaking of Dupont, I haven't seen how he's playing yet this year, but his production leaves a lot to be desired so far. Just 6 assists in 12 games at this point.
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He also doesn’t even turn 17 until the season is over… kids a stud.
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11-09-2025, 07:48 PM
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#249
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I just saw a mock that had us taking McKenna first-overall, and C Caleb Malhotra with our late-first. Ideal scenario.
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Sign me up
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11-09-2025, 07:49 PM
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#250
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
He also doesn’t even turn 17 until the season is over… kids a stud.
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He was over a point per game as a 15/16 year old last year.
Small sample size, but going backwards with his production doesn't look good on paper, especially with the talent being watered down a bit from the NCAA mass exodus.
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11-09-2025, 07:52 PM
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#251
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
He was over a point per game as a 15/16 year old last year.
Small sample size, but going backwards with his production doesn't look good on paper, especially with the talent being watered down a bit from the NCAA mass exodus.
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Clearly, the problem is he isn't playing with Eric Jamieson anymore.
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11-09-2025, 08:11 PM
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#252
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
He was over a point per game as a 15/16 year old last year.
Small sample size, but going backwards with his production doesn't look good on paper, especially with the talent being watered down a bit from the NCAA mass exodus.
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He position involves more than that…
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11-09-2025, 08:13 PM
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#253
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
Clearly, the problem is he isn't playing with Eric Jamieson anymore.
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I'm sure it's been a difficult adjustment- playing with Jamieson allowed him to roam rather freely and do his thing.
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11-09-2025, 08:29 PM
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#254
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Truculent!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
I just saw a mock that had us taking McKenna first-overall, and C Caleb Malhotra with our late-first. Ideal scenario.
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Malholtra looks great!
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11-09-2025, 08:58 PM
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#255
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
Malholtra looks great!
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Sure does! On pace for 90 points in 68 games.
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11-09-2025, 09:24 PM
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#256
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sandman
Sure does! On pace for 90 points in 68 games.
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Does he have his dad’s prowess on the faceoff dot? He was elite at face offs. Pretty sure the Canucks used to have him take the draw on powerplays just to make sure they got possession and then he’d change off for someone else immediately.
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11-09-2025, 09:25 PM
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#257
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First Line Centre
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Feels like the flames to finish last and miss on the lottery to pick some other chump instead of mckenna. Hope that doesn't happen but...
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11-09-2025, 09:47 PM
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#258
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by stemit14
Does he have his dad’s prowess on the faceoff dot? He was elite at face offs. Pretty sure the Canucks used to have him take the draw on powerplays just to make sure they got possession and then he’d change off for someone else immediately.
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Only 47.6% on faceoffs...
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11-09-2025, 10:43 PM
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#259
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by BagoPucks
Feels like the flames to finish last and miss on the lottery to pick some other chump instead of mckenna. Hope that doesn't happen but...
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The top five ( maybe even 6 or 7)in this draft is looking very good.
Lots of draft watchers have lawrence as a possible 2 pick. Obviously the big right winger. Personally think stenberg is maybe being undervalued here.
I am a big fan of Belchetz, huge skilled rw, a lot like Martone last year. Viggo Bjork possibly being undersold. A draft guy compared lin to buium.
I think this is a really good draft in the first round, really hope what ever dealis reached on Andersson it includes a first this year.
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11-09-2025, 11:03 PM
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#260
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Right now, Ivar Stenberg is tied with Anton Frondell in SHL scoring, with 12 points in 17 games apiece, and Frondell was drafted this past summer.
If the SHL season ended today, Stenberg would have the 10th-best ppg (0.71) by a player 18-and-under, with 10 games or more. Peter Forsberg had a ppg of 0.74 in his 17 year-old season, and 0.72 when he was 18.
13 points in 7 games at the U-18's, tied for 37th-best all-time, 22nd-best all-time for goals (8).
10 points in 5 games at the Hlinka, tied for 26th-best all-time.
11 points in 5 games at the WJAC-19, tied for 6th-best all-time.
It would be hard to pick any other forward other than McKenna over this kid.
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