[GDT] Columbus Blue Jackets at Calgary Flames 7:30pm TV: SNW, SN1, FDOH - RADIO SN960

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So is Buium, Schaefer is 18, funny how their coaches are letting those guys learn by playing.

I don’t know much about Buium. But Schaefer is an elite, elite skater, and much more advanced than Parehk when it comes to reading and reacting to plays defensively. There’s a reason he was the consensus #1 OA pick - he’s an outlier who’s almost unprecedentedly advanced for his age.

[FlamesAddiction]

I really don't think whether the team will win more or less if he does or doesn't play is even a factor when it comes to scratching him. I don't think Huska is that naive to believe that Parekh is a consequential difference either way at this point. It's more about what is best for his development. People can disagree that limiting the number of games and minutes is a good way to develop him, but there are also a lot of players that have their development stunted by throwing them in before they are ready.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I just hope the Flames don't embarrass Nazem tonight.

There's been more than a few games this year where only he showed up on time.

Soak in the Naz goodness tonight and for however much longer it lasts.

We gave up our beloved Moneyhands for him, and Naz's strong play these few years helped us heal from that pain. But when Naz is gone, things will get very dark.

The Flames are an absolute mis-shapen freak of an NHL team.Scarier than Frankenstein. Look at the roster without Naz. Yikes.

So true, but hopefully they show up for this one.

[aiy_yah]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

I do wonder if, given the team's high probability of missing the playoffs this season, the organization has decided to keep Parekh to a maximum of 40 games so as to not bump up the date of his UFA status. Loan him out for the World Juniors and have him play 40 of 70 games while he is with the Flames.

There is also the question about whether Parekh is physically mature enough to handle an 82 game schedule. It may be advantageous to give him a bit more recovery time due to his ongoing physical development. Defensemen almost never make the NHL at his age, and I'm sure if the AHL was an option, he would be there instead of the main club this season.

Read somewhere (Pike article??) that it's 40 games on the roster, not 40 played. so he'd have to be sent back to the O by game 39 to not drop a UFA year.

[Finger Cookin]

If bitching and moaning sped up the rebuild we'd be about to announce our first round selection in the 2027 draft right about now. Instead we've got 19 long months in front of us.

[1qqaaz]

Wasn't Columbus the winner of our least hated team poll?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Wasn't Columbus the winner of our least hated team poll?

I dont remember but I would find it hard to hate on any team with Sean Monahan on it.

Dont get me wrong, I'm still bitter about losing him, but Moneyhands has built up a lot of inherent Goodwill in my eyes.

I think the only thing that could make a serious dent in that would be seeing him skate around wearing an Oildrop or a Whale.

[gvitaly]

I was listening to Barn Burner today, and here's what noodles had to say about the coaching staff:

Originally Posted by Jamie McLennan

I think Huska is an unbelievable coach. I think he has done a great job. I think he has got a pulse on these guys. Is he ultra serious? Yes. I look at the way Ryan does business, again I'm not behind the scenes, but I think he is a guy that is very buttoned up, and what I mean by that is, every detail he has examined it. Like this is a guy, that coaching staff, from what I understand puts work in, exhaustive work, and they've done a great job. It hasn't translated in the standings and a lot of that[this year]. Unbelievable last year. It's a great coaching staff. Anybody online who is questioning Ryan Huska has an egg avatar that doesn't have a lot of knowledge behind it.

I think they've done a great job. It's funny, I talked to a coach in the league the other day who said that the Calgary team is better than their record. That's all he said to me. He just said that team is better than their record, and he specifically spoke about the coach. They're well prepared, it doesn't mean they execute it, but they're well prepared.

Warner was pushing back saying that Huska might have too tight of a grip on the team because they stayed an extra night in Ottawa instead of having a party in Nashville.

I think Noodles is right, and we have a good coaching staff. As for dis' original comments I just read them as green text. He just enjoys the outage it generates around here each time.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I was listening to Barn Burner today, and here's what noodles had to say about the coaching staff:


Warner was pushing back saying that Huska might have too tight of a grip on the team because they stayed an extra night in Ottawa instead of having a party in Nashville.

I think Noodles is right, and we have a good coaching staff. As for dis' original comments I just read them as green text. He just enjoys the outage it generates around here each time.

Or I enjoy the discussions and different opinions people have on here. Just because I don't agree with the masses does not mean I don't like listening to the opposing view. Wasn't it Bingo who said not long ago that we encourage different opinions around here? That's what the board is for. Not everyone has to agree on everything.

[Inferno]

I haven't watched every Flames game, but when I have he looks like he has promise but isn't dominating to the point that it's ridiculous to sit him out once and a while.

I have no problem with sitting him out once and a while. Sitting out a game or two in a row isn't going to ruin him. It might be even beneificial to him if he has a rough game or two.

[Ba'alzamon]

It is a bit frustrating that Parekh sat out two, played one, and is now out again.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

The comparisons to Buium and Schaefer are dumb.
You might as well compare him to Celebrini and Catton.
Better comparisons are probably Yakemchuk, Silayev, Dickinson, and Jiricek. Which is to say no one at all because all of these things are not like the others.

I think it’s a mistake to assume Parekh is caught in some reward-punishment loop.
He’s not making plays. Forget the D zone he’s over his head trying to generate anything. Letting him founder on the same rocks over and over isn’t development, it’s Oilerz.

[Calgary4LIfe]

FWIW, I would be surprised if Parekh is sitting because of discipline, or making mistakes. I think the Flames have a development plan around Parekh. As he shows himself to be improving, I bet he gets more games in a row. Otherwise, the plan I think is simply to play him according to the competition, and develop him slowly.


He is not Schaefer, and what Schaefer does or does not do is not of interest here. Huska has a fairly good track record with defencemen, no?


I always just go back to MacTavish's quote: "There's no greater springboard to development than failure."


The Flames are not going to Oilers this up. Parekh - along with Wolf - are the two most critical parts of the future of this organization. They are going prioritize their development, period, not prioritize trying to win meaningless games in what is essentially a lost season.


With that said, my first post still stands; Go Flames Go! Win this one for Kadri, and I hope Kadri has a hat trick!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Inferno

I haven't watched every Flames game, but when I have he looks like he has promise but isn't dominating to the point that it's ridiculous to sit him out once and a while.

I have no problem with sitting him out once and a while. Sitting out a game or two in a row isn't going to ruin him. It might be even beneificial to him if he has a rough game or two.

Seeing him on the bench a few games ago hanging his head in shame after a terrible giveaway isn't something you want to see a 19 year old go through 82 time a year in front of 18,000 people. It's like a mercy pull at this point. And that isn't all on Parekh, the team just isn't that good. It wouldn't be so bad if he was offsetting the mistakes with points to help boost his confidence, and that part has more to do with the team just sucking offensively.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

The comparisons to Buium and Schaefer are dumb.

Why?

Better comparisons are probably Yakemchuk, Silayev, Dickinson, and Jiricek. Which

Why?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

He is not Schaefer, and what Schaefer does or does not do is not of interest here. Huska has a fairly good track record with defencemen, no?

Not just defencemen either.

I actually found it pretty interesting cruising through and looking at the players he’s coached since junior. Very few 1st round picks, but a good number of 2nd to 6th round picks that have gone on to have pretty decent to great careers, or just overachieved in general.

Obviously not everything can be traced back to the years they spent with Huska, and not sure how it stacks up to other WHL/AHL coaches, but definitely a theme.

You see stuff like that, hear what hockey players and personnel say about him, and it’s really hard to believe the negative things some fans say about him.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Why?

I agree that the comparison to Schaefer isn’t really fair to Parekh but Buium totally is especially since he went after Parekh. I think the people who are blaming Huska for Parekh’s scoring struggles are mostly just redirecting their disappointment that Parekh isn’t killing it offensively.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So is Buium, Schaefer is 18, funny how their coaches are letting those guys learn by playing.

Leo Carlsson was drafted second overall and in his rookie season he was a healthy scratch over 20 games playing less than 60 games. To start his third season he's played 12 games averaging 18 minutes a night with 18 points.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Leo Carlsson was drafted second overall and in his rookie season he was a healthy scratch over 20 games playing less than 60 games. To start his third season he's played 12 games averaging 18 minutes a night with 18 points.

Not arguing about how Parekh is being managed, but Carlsson missed 20 games with injury that season, and most of the other scratches were a plan by the Ducks to ease him into the NHL game, particularly the physicality - they weren't scratches based on his play.

[Harry Lime]

It's my understanding that UFA slides if Parekh plays under 40 games this season. If he is going to sit half the season, it's to his developmental benefit to sit more in the first half.