Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by peter12

You’re right. I knew I ####ed that up. I was thinking about his post-election soul-searching.

That search is about as successful as the search on Oak Island.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by btimbit

It also helps that these days Carney is closer to being a Conservative, than the Conservative party

Nm

[PepsiFree]

lol Peter acting like PP is doing a great job when he fumbled a walk-in at the 1 yard line in one of the most embarrassing election failures in Canadian history.

Silly boy needs a kiss.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

He has a soul?

Well obviously no, but that doesn't mean he can't go look for one. Really makes me wish I had followed through with my internet 1.0 souls4sale.com get rich plan. I could have helped the poor guy out. He'd have to accept a discount bin Green Party member soul though. Shipping not included.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

lol Peter acting like PP is doing a great job when he fumbled a walk-in at the 1 yard line in one of the most embarrassing election failures in Canadian history.

Silly boy needs a kiss.

Where did I say he was doing a great job? You don't just need a kiss, little man, you want one.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by peter12

Where did I say he was doing a great job?

Originally Posted by peter12

I don't think there is anything wrong with the party's stance at all. What exactly is so "extreme" about it? It's position on the carbon tax? Oh right.

Poilievre deserves to stay. He increased the CPC vote share to its highest ever, won a ton of seats in Ontario, and won his leadership review.

If you don't like how he "opposes this government," well you should read a bit more. It's his job and he's very good at it.

For the record, I'm not a big CPC or Poilievre guy (although I did support them in last election), but I really respect the way Poilievre has hammered on the cost of living issues faced by people under 35 in a way that Carney will never do.

We're looking at a real generational split in the way Canadians see our politics.

Yeah Pepsi, you illiterate f-ck, he said "very good". Sheeeesh.

[peter12]

Fine, he's a great Leader of the Opposition. He's undeniably effective.

[Slava]

Personally, I hope that the CPC keeps Poilievre. There is no way he's going to win government for them, and it's clear that the populist approach he wants to take is losing steam. A couple more years of watching the US, and there will be less and less appetite for that kind of politics in Canada.

And the budget, and the CPC talking about how terrible it is, is very interesting. To me, that budget is very pro-business and basically hits everything that they wish they could've implemented. But let's face it. No political party was going to look forward to standing up and giving their budget in this current scenario. The government is spending unbelievable amounts of money. You're not going to stop that on a dime, particularly with an anemic economy where we need all the help we can get in terms of the GDP.

[peter12]

I actually think the populist position will grow more and more popular. Canada is facing a lot of headwinds and our elites have not proven themselves up those challenges.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by peter12

Fine, he's a great Leader of the Opposition. He's undeniably effective.

LOL, he's not.

He hasn't managed to change any legislation or policy, he turned a 30% advantage into a defeat last election and he is inches away from putting the Liberals into a stronger position than under Trudeau if he loses any more MPs to them.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

LOL, he's not.

He hasn't managed to change any legislation or policy, he turned a 30% advantage into a defeat last election and he is inches away from putting the Liberals into a stronger position than under Trudeau if he loses any more MPs to them.

This is just factually incorrect. Blatantly.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by peter12

I actually think the populist position will grow more and more popular. Canada is facing a lot of headwinds and our elites have not proven themselves up those challenges.

Why do you keep lying? You didn't even make it to three words without saying something untrue.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by peter12

This is just factually incorrect. Blatantly.

Show your work.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Yeah Pepsi, you illiterate f-ck, he said "very good". Sheeeesh.

Looks like the work of a troll who can't keep track of what positions he's pretending to hold.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by gioforpm

show your work.

axe the tax axe the tax axe the tax

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by btimbit

It also helps that these days Carney is closer to being a Conservative, than the Conservative party

Not long ago, Mark Carney could have won a Conservative Party leadership race. Today, he wouldn’t have a hope in hell. CPC partisans should probably reflect on why that is, and what it says about how the party has changed.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

lol Peter acting like PP is doing a great job when he fumbled a walk-in at the 1 yard line in one of the most embarrassing election failures in Canadian history.

Silly boy needs a kiss.

How dense do you have to be to think that Trump and PP are smart and doing a great job. Hahaha

[Slava]

Originally Posted by peter12

This is just factually incorrect. Blatantly.

This is entirely accurate. The Liberals under Carney basically have taken all the CPC policies, while Poilievre continued to blame everything on Trudeau. His policies have been enacted, but politically, he's obviously brutal.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by peter12

axe the tax axe the tax axe the tax

You think repeating that did something? As opposed to opinion polling?

And according to your hero, nothing changed and the carbon tax is still there. Which is it?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Not long ago, Mark Carney could have won a Conservative Party leadership race. Today, he wouldn’t have a hope in hell. CPC partisans should probably reflect on why that is, and what it says about how the party has changed.

I mean, yes. I kind of theorize to myself that the death of Jim Prentice mirrored a kind of decline in the quality of the conservative movement in Canada. Pair that with Jason Kenney being tossed out of AB and the self-inflicted wound of tossing Erin O'Toole out of the leadership before he had a real chance to make a mark.

Poilievre is still effective. You can't deny that he hasn't had an influence on turning the country towards the right again. I will just go back to an earlier point I made that few understand. It is historically difficult for a sitting Leader of the Official Opposition to parlay that into becoming Prime Minister and it is probably doubly so for someone like Poilievre who is combative and irritating. Great qualities for Leader of the OO but maybe not for a PM?