Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by surferguy

I’d drive a van called the laurentian cruiser.

May I present you, the Pontiac Laurentian. You could definitely cruise in this.

[surferguy]

How would that look in Van form?

[IliketoPuck]

Does anyone have a link to the PP presser decrying this gross overreach by the government on civil rights?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by surferguy

How would that look in Van form?

The 3 split front windows are an upgrade item.

[surferguy]

Sign me up!

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Does anyone have a link to the PP presser decrying this gross overreach by the government on civil rights?

Why would PP care? Its not like he'll be in Alberta again in the next 4 years....

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Why would PP care? Its not like he'll be in Alberta again in the next 4 years....

Don’t give him ideas. PP hating Alberta and being a faux champion of labour would all be good for his electability.

[chemgear]

https://globalnews.ca/news/11500677/...-quebec-lands/

First Nation files Aboriginal title claim to lands in western Quebec

An Algonquin First Nation has filed a title claim in Quebec Superior Court over large swaths of territory across the west of the province, and is also seeking $5 billion from governments and Crown corporations.

Jean-Guy Whiteduck, chief of the Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg First Nation, says the Algonquin people must have a say in the way water, wildlife and forestry are managed in their traditional territory. Meaningful reconciliation can’t exist until that happens, he said in a recent interview.

[direwolf]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but I guess it fits here. This is pretty great news. I work in tourism here in BC and we saw a huge influx of visitors this year, not just from Canadians taking their vacations within their home country, but also a s*** ton of visitors from around the world.

While meeting and chatting with many of these people, a pattern emerged. People from around the world want to explore North America, but they want to avoid the U.S. like the plague. So they're choosing Canada instead.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...2025-9.6959500

Canada’s tourism sector generated a record-breaking amount of revenue of between May and August, reaching $59 billion, a six per cent increase compared to the same period last year.

Most of the revenue was the result of Canadians choosing to spend their travel dollars within the country, as domestic tourism was up seven per cent. Revenue from international travellers remained strong, particularly from overseas markets, which increased by 10 per cent, according to new figures released by Destination Canada on Thursday.

Hotels were kept busy during the summer months, especially in August, when national hotel occupancy reached 80.7 per cent, the highest since 2014.

[Firebot]

Thank you Trump for giving so much winning.

The other side of the coin.

https://www.tourismeconomics.com/pre...-weak-in-2025/

Overseas arrivals dropped 3.1% in July, bringing the year-to-date (YTD) decline to 1.6%, with losses driven by decreases from Western Europe and Asia.

Canadian visitation continues to collapse, down 25.2% YTD. This includes a 37.0% drop in land arrivals in July alone.

Hotel occupancy in northern border states—like Maine, where occupancy fell to 53.9% YTD vs. 57.2% in 2024—is notably down.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Wasn't sure where to put this, but I guess it fits here. This is pretty great news. I work in tourism here in BC and we saw a huge influx of visitors this year, not just from Canadians taking their vacations within their home country, but also a s*** ton of visitors from around the world.

While meeting and chatting with many of these people, a pattern emerged. People from around the world want to explore North America, but they want to avoid the U.S. like the plague. So they're choosing Canada instead.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...2025-9.6959500

I hear you but "traffic, hotel prices, people will want to stay/buy properties."
Half the population will hate this news. BC has an identity crisis.
The World Cup will be interesting.

[Slava]

Well, it's budget day. Apparently, we're both getting an austerity budget that the NDP/Bloc won't support, and we're also getting a budget with $75-100bn deficit that the CPC won't support. I would think there is no possible way that the budget doesn't pass. None of the parties want an election right now (despite the posturing), and they'll either cave, or conveniently not have all the members in the house when the vote happens to make sure it goes through.

As for the actual budget, I'm undecided about the division between the capital and operational budgets. I am generally in favour of characterizing these as different. Still, I also don't want that to become an excuse to spend enormous amounts of money and put us into troublesome debt. I'm interested to see how this looks in practice today, but I still trust that Carney and his fiscally focused team is going to be smart about this.

[Winsor_Pilates]

So you're saying it's another day of my social media full of my conservative friends complaining, no matter what is actually in the budget?
Can't wait!

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

So you're saying it's another day of my social media full of my conservative friends complaining, no matter what is actually in the budget?
Can't wait!

LOL. why do you still have conservative friends? Some have seen the light and can't support PP and his Reform Party. the others i just deleted.

There are no more good "conservatives" anymore. Just a bunch of deplorables.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

So you're saying it's another day of my social media full of my conservative friends complaining, no matter what is actually in the budget?
Can't wait!

Well, everyone is going to complain from all the parties (except the Liberals), and then they're going to make sure that while "this is the worst budget ever and they absolutely hate it", it passes, and there is no election.

[Johnny Makarov]

I hope the NDP vote against it and then get wiped from Cdn Politics existence so Nenshi can finally change his party's name.

[peter12]

It's going to be a pretty draconian budget from what I'm hearing. Something like the Chretien/Martin budgets in the mid-90s. No direct cuts, but allowing a lot of social programs up for renewal to sunset. Probably get some significant savings out of that.

Increasing military spending to 5% is something that will actually get the Americans' attention, so I'm interested to see how all that spells out in the actual spending.

[Regorium]

I'm still looking for climate policy. Investing in green infrastructure and home retrofits are still economic drivers using capital dollars from individuals. The Greener Homes Loan was a relatively cheap program (free financing) for driving millions of dollars in individual spending. I'll be interested whether he throws something token in there.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by peter12

It's going to be a pretty draconian budget from what I'm hearing. Something like the Chretien/Martin budgets in the mid-90s. No direct cuts, but allowing a lot of social programs up for renewal to sunset. Probably get some significant savings out of that.

Increasing military spending to 5% is something that will actually get the Americans' attention, so I'm interested to see how all that spells out in the actual spending.

America only cares about Canada's military spending if we are giving all of that money to America.

Now that we have moved our submarine spending away from the US, that is a big number of billions of dollars we are no longer handing over.

If we dump the F-35 for the Gripen then that would be another stack of billions that we are no longer gifting to America. Moving to the Gripen would be a huge win for Canada as Saab have actually committed to set up manufacturing in Canada for the jets, which would create Canadian jobs and enable Canada to have more control over the assets.

That last part is a big deal as there are many rumours around the US having kill switches in the F-35. 3 million lines of code inside blackboxes in the jets that we are not allowed to audit or adjust.

Once Canada stops handing over piles of money to the US, will they care anymore what we spend on the military? I bet not.

[Firebot]

Carney is basically an old school PC / radical centrist Liberal at a time when austerity is needed...It sounds like it could easily pass as Chretien / Martin style (can't say Harper CPC style as they really didn't take much austerity measures). Not unexpected at all.

The NDP will likely do the most NDP thing and just abstain, claiming that this won't show support (the same way they kept Trudeau in power even after ripping the coalition deal until suddenly the NDP was no longer needed). I am betting pharmacare promises gets gutted to the bare minimum for Carney / Liberals to still claim it is keeping the promise, but with the NDP basically losing nearly everything they bargained for including the party's future for Singh's feather in the cap.

Liberals are just a couple seats away from a majority, we aren't going to an election (and even if we did the Liberals could very well want one and call the opposition parties bluffs).