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Old 10-30-2025, 12:22 PM   #11021
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Well, as some have pointed out, the team does need to get to the cap floor that some people seem to forget about.
the Flames are currently spending $83,716,666.

The salary cap floor is $70.6M.

The Flames can drop 13M in cap.

If there's retention anywhere (like say, coleman and andersson), it's an absolute non-factor.

Kadri = $7M
Andersson = $4.55M
Coleman = $4.9M

16.45M at full cap hit if those players are moved. Just calling players up to replace them would likely cover the $3.45M that the Flames would need to maintain to stay compliant.

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Old 10-30-2025, 12:38 PM   #11022
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This is less of a trade rumour but more of just a random rumour.

There is a guy on HFBOARDs and Twitter saying that Huberdeau actually has an injury that requires surgery, and once the Flames are out of the playoff race for sure he will be shut down to have that surgery to be fully ready for next season.

One again consider the source is a random guy on HFBOARDS, but that would be interesting if true and potentially also plays into the teams plans.
We didn't learn from Monahan?
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Old 10-30-2025, 12:43 PM   #11023
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We didn't learn from Monahan?
no?
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Old 10-30-2025, 12:58 PM   #11024
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Hopefully true but my expectations are strongly tempered
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:00 PM   #11025
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That makes sense. It is a league that wants to win. Who else could possibly be available from crappy teams

Brayden Schenn (6.5 million) - has averaged 20 goals and 54 points a season the last 3 years compared with 29 goals and 66 points a season over the last 3 for Kadri. A much inferior player.

Sharks have nobody who is comparable

Nashville has Ryan O’Reilly who is comparable but not as talented offensively as Kadri.

Boston has Zacha but he is a vastly inferior offensive player to Kadri

Islanders have Pageau but he sucks.

Kadri is kinda in a class of his own for centers that are likely available.
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Hopefully true but my expectations are strongly tempered
How nice for us that Kadri's NMC changed (magically) to a 13-team NTC this year.
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:03 PM   #11027
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How nice for us that Kadri's NMC changed (magically) to a 13-team NTC this year.
It actually makes sense for Kadri. It was going to change next year anyway so if a trade is inevitable, this gives him more time to establish himself on a new team.
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:04 PM   #11028
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Please finally have a bidding war for one of our guys!
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That makes sense. It is a league that wants to win. Who else could possibly be available from crappy teams

Brayden Schenn (6.5 million) - has averaged 20 goals and 54 points a season the last 3 years compared with 29 goals and 66 points a season over the last 3 for Kadri. A much inferior player.

Sharks have nobody who is comparable

Nashville has Ryan O’Reilly who is comparable but not as talented offensively as Kadri.

Boston has Zacha but he is a vastly inferior offensive player to Kadri

Islanders have Pageau but he sucks.

Kadri is kinda in a class of his own for centers that are likely available.
I personally think Nelson is much better than some give him credit to be. But Kadri would be an upgrade on Nelson, and he got a haul. I really hope Conroy can pull this off soon.
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:20 PM   #11030
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the Flames are currently spending $83,716,666.

The salary cap floor is $70.6M.

The Flames can drop 13M in cap.

If there's retention anywhere (like say, coleman and andersson), it's an absolute non-factor.

Kadri = $7M
Andersson = $4.55M
Coleman = $4.9M

16.45M at full cap hit if those players are moved. Just calling players up to replace them would likely cover the $3.45M that the Flames would need to maintain to stay compliant.

Thanks. In the scenario that all three are traded, they almost have to retain on one of those contracts to keep cap compliant.
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There would almost certainly be NHLers coming back in some of those deals
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:25 PM   #11032
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Has there ever been a bad market for anyone dangling a top 6 C?
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:29 PM   #11033
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I will say that if they can get a haul back for Kadri that will make me feel a lot better about moving a 1st attached to Monahan to be able to dump that contract to sign Kadri.
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If what Cam Robinson is saying is true then the Flames have no choice but to move Kadri. The way he is describing it this will be the biggest return we can expect of our rebuilding moves. Honestly this could make up for trading Monahan and the 16th pick in 2025 to bring him in for 3 straight playoff misses.
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:30 PM   #11035
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I will say that if they can get a haul back for Kadri that will make me feel a lot better about moving a 1st attached to Monahan to be able to dump that contract to sign Kadri.
It was always a positive asset move...price was high because nobody had cap. Flames also got Kadri because nobody had cap.
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:30 PM   #11036
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Was it Royle that said Frost has been discussed as well? Makes sense if teams are all in on centers.
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Old 10-30-2025, 01:31 PM   #11037
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Sharks could desperately use a top-six veteran centre to accelerate the last stage of their rebuild into completion; we'll do them a solid and reluctantly/only take their 2016 1st round pick for Kadri, and they can throw in a cap dump too. Get 'er done Connie and Grier. Sharks have had enough picks, now they need real veteran leadership to take them to the promised land.

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Old 10-30-2025, 01:41 PM   #11038
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I'd argue that Kadri is the most sought after center available right now for a team looking to make a run. His name probably comes up every day at this point.
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Any idea what the quality of prospect is being thrown around for him, Royle?
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Any idea what the quality of prospect is being thrown around for him, Royle?
No returns that I've been made aware of.
Lots of 1st round picks being thrown around though.
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