Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Flames0910]

It's leaked. Back to school Wednesday and they're invoking the notwithstanding clause.

So next move is to the unions. What would a general strike even look like?

https://www.play1037.ca/2025/10/27/c...-back-to-work/

Edit. Already removed from the site but it was up on reddit. Media was informed at 11:30am but it was embargo'd. Play1037 likely had a scheduled post in the queue and forgot to update it when the UCP didn't start the session at 1:30pm as planned.

https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/com...lberta_orders/
https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/com...lasses_resume/

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Ya, there are two ways to remove her as "premier".

1) Join the UCP and vote against her in the next leadership review. They work hard to make that difficult as they only want people to vote in person in their AGM in Red Deer. However, even if she were removed as leader, she would still be an MLA.

2) Recall her in her riding, which is a pretty safe conservative riding. She technically could stay on as leader of the party during the recall process and even stay leader if she is removed as an MLA. Similar to how Nenshi was leader of the NDP while not having a seat.

1) didn’t they severely limit new memberships last time to boost her prospects?

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

So you’re again just kind of making it up?

No I am not, because it's accurate and logical. We have thousands of MP's, senators, MLA's in Canada. Doesn't anybody require any serious, urgent treatment? Wouldn't some of these people be going public about waiting years for appointments and surgery? Is it only the common Pepsi guy we hear about across the country waiting?

If I am so wrong on this fake news I am spewing, do we have any logical explanation on how professional athletes in Canada get access to surgeries and other treatments much faster than others? You can account for imaging in Alberta as that is private and people are able to pay for quicker access. How would you account for the surgeries happening within days?

Of course teams have Dr's on payroll who work for the teams but it's important to understand where the surgeries are taking place, often in public hospitals with public resources. The surgeries are paid for by the teams but do you have this ability? Can you charge a credit card and have ACL surgery this week in a public hospital? This isn't magic.

It's the little thing in Canada where we like to pretend we don't really ration healthcare and since almost everybody has universal coverage, everybody get's equal treatment. We know that to not be 100% true. There are priority VIP's.

[Fuzz]

Don't NHL athletes just go to the States and have surgery there? I seem to remember Cambie surgery centre in BC used to advertise they did work for the NHL as well.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Don't NHL athletes just go to the States and have surgery there? I seem to remember Cambie surgery centre in BC used to advertise they did work for the NHL as well.

No, they usually get it done locally. There have been instances where some players will go to see specific specialists who have experience with NHL specific injuries. There is a surgeon in Vail, Colorado who has done a lot of NHL players shoulder surgeries for specific injuries as an example.

Routine, regular surgeries that have been done a lot of times are generally done locally or within Canada.

[Wormius]

Which NHL player has skipped the queue to get surgery done in Canada? Mangiapane, Kirkland have all had surgery recently. You claim they did this through AHS?

[MegaErtz]

I remember flu season in 2013 or early 2014. There was a big shortage of vaccines but the Flames got theirs done through AHS and it raised a lot of eyebrows.

[Fuzz]

https://flamesnation.ca/news/report-...oulder-surgery

Kirkland had surgery on Monday to repair two small tears in his right shoulder from his questionable 10 round disqualification win over Carlos Molina on March 24th at the Reliant Arena in Houston, Texas. The surgery was performed in San Antonio, Texas.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/04...ery-a-success/


A Twofer.

[Weitz]

There’s definitely a small amount of line jumping but it’s mostly from “people you know” and it’s generally just to the top of the cancellation list Or someone working some extra time as a favour. Like the post above athletes and such are going to the USA or paying privately here if possible.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Which NHL player has skipped the queue to get surgery done in Canada? Mangiapane, Kirkland have all had surgery recently. You claim they did this through AHS?

This happens all the time. Nurses on day surgery see it lots

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Which NHL player has skipped the queue to get surgery done in Canada? Mangiapane, Kirkland have all had surgery recently. You claim they did this through AHS?

Where do you think Canadian pro-athletes get surgery done in Canada? In local hospitals. We aren't a 3rd world country shipping off million dollar players somewhere else every time they need surgery. Happens in small number of cases.

They aren't skipping the queue through some connection, they are given priority as VIP's as are other VIP's. Look up the Calgary Flames medical staff, they are all local Dr's who preform procedures for local Albertans in local hospitals. Heck, Dr. Ian Auld is my sports medicine Dr. After his clinic screwed up with forgetting to fax off MRI request, I asked if the same thing would have happened to Jagr and Gio at the time. He laughed but the point is on.

This isn't some opinion I have and isn't isolated to Alberta. What do you think would happen with a WHL player in SK? Wait 2+ years? Have you ever heard of any pro-athlete being delayed in getting treatment in Canada?

Spoiler alert for all. There is a list of priority VIP's. Don't tell me a homeless women and Premier Smith are both waiting 13 weeks for a breast cancer appointment with an oncologist.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://flamesnation.ca/news/report-...oulder-surgery


https://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/04...ery-a-success/


A Twofer.

I think you got the wrong Kirkland. The one guy appears to be in another sport. The Vail surgeon is known to do a lot of NHL players for specific injuries. A lot of players from all over the NHL go there, not just Canada.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Where do you think Canadian pro-athletes get surgery done in Canada? In local hospitals. We aren't a 3rd world country shipping off million dollar players somewhere else every time they need surgery. Happens in small number of cases.

They aren't skipping the queue through some connection, they are given priority as VIP's as are other VIP's. Look up the Calgary Flames medical staff, they are all local Dr's who preform procedures for local Albertans in local hospitals. Heck, Dr. Ian Auld is my sports medicine Dr. After his clinic screwed up with forgetting to fax off MRI request, I asked if the same thing would have happened to Jagr and Gio at the time. He laughed but the point is on.

This isn't some opinion I have and isn't isolated to Alberta. What do you think would happen with a WHL player in SK? Wait 2+ years? Have you ever heard of any pro-athlete being delayed in getting treatment in Canada?

Spoiler alert for all. There is a list of priority VIP's. Don't tell me a homeless women and Premier Smith are both waiting 13 weeks for a breast cancer appointment with an oncologist.

Depends who has the highest priority medical need.

But it’s definitely elite Canadian snipers at the top lol.

[Luder]

Smith is a cowardly piece of crap

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Luder

Smith is a cowardly piece of crap

News Update: "Water. Still wet. More news at 11!"

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Depends who has the highest priority medical need.

But it’s definitely elite Canadian snipers at the top lol.

I used the sniper analogy to highlight a point about VIP's and how they don't have the same wait times as regular Joe Blows. If you prefer, we can use JTF2 terminology. As I stated before, we pretend like we are all equal in Canada with regards to access and wait times but that is not the case.

This is why you don't see media reports or stories of MP's, MLA, Governor General, military brass, high level athletes, RCMP and other VIP's with their horrific wait time stories, they don't occur to the same level as regular Joe's.

It's one thing for an old lady to go onto CTV and say she can't get access for a knee replacement and another for PM's Protective detail or god forbid a Sniper Pepsi. He got hurt on the job and is awaiting an MRI in 2027 before seeing a Dr if surgery is required.

With all the corruption that is discussed in this thread about the UCP daily, humor me and tell me that UCP connected Snipers probably get bumped up the list at AHS. All the left leaning Lib Snipers get attended to closer to 2030, if they are still alive.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I used the sniper analogy to highlight a point about VIP's and how they don't have the same wait times as regular Joe Blows. If you prefer, we can use JTF2 terminology. As I stated before, we pretend like we are all equal in Canada with regards to access and wait times but that is not the case.

This is why you don't see media reports or stories of MP's, MLA, Governor General, military brass, high level athletes, RCMP and other VIP's with their horrific wait time stories, they don't occur to the same level as regular Joe's.

It's one thing for an old lady to go onto CTV and say she can't get access for a knee replacement and another for PM's Protective detail or god forbid a Sniper Pepsi. He got hurt on the job and is awaiting an MRI in 2027 before seeing a Dr if surgery is required.

With all the corruption that is discussed in this thread about the UCP daily, humor me and tell me that UCP connected Snipers probably get bumped up the list at AHS. All the left leaning Lib Snipers get attended to closer to 2030, if they are still alive.

So you made up a VIP to make a point about real VIPs getting priority?

[Cappy]

Are you still talking about priority medical treatment for VIPs with no evidence and a “trust me bro” attitude?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I used the sniper analogy to highlight a point about VIP's and how they don't have the same wait times as regular Joe Blows. If you prefer, we can use JTF2 terminology. As I stated before, we pretend like we are all equal in Canada with regards to access and wait times but that is not the case.

Ah we're on to JTF-2 now. Yes, please tell us more about the medical practices of a highly secretive and classified unit

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I used the sniper analogy to highlight a point about VIP's and how they don't have the same wait times as regular Joe Blows. If you prefer, we can use JTF2 terminology. As I stated before, we pretend like we are all equal in Canada with regards to access and wait times but that is not the case.

This is why you don't see media reports or stories of MP's, MLA, Governor General, military brass, high level athletes, RCMP and other VIP's with their horrific wait time stories, they don't occur to the same level as regular Joe's.

It's one thing for an old lady to go onto CTV and say she can't get access for a knee replacement and another for PM's Protective detail or god forbid a Sniper Pepsi. He got hurt on the job and is awaiting an MRI in 2027 before seeing a Dr if surgery is required.

With all the corruption that is discussed in this thread about the UCP daily, humor me and tell me that UCP connected Snipers probably get bumped up the list at AHS. All the left leaning Lib Snipers get attended to closer to 2030, if they are still alive.

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