PS5 vs. Switch vs. XBOXSX - THUNDERDOME Version 2.0

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Okay, but why? If you can get a Xbox Series X for $730 and Gamepass will have most everything you'll want to play, then why build a PC? The video card alone on a PC will cost close to the same as the Xbox.

I love PC gaming you so you don't have to convince me, but the value proposition these days isn't great for them.

Cause you can get PC gamepass if that's your thing but you can still get the big Playstation exclusives on Steam. Best of everything. And as much as 5090 users will try to convince you it's the only way to do it, a PC doesn't have to be absurdly expensive. You can still have a great experience without spending $2000+ on just a GPU.

[Inferno]

Yeah, I didn't need to buy a 4090. But I'm glad I did and it's an investment I don't regret.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Okay, but why? If you can get a Xbox Series X for $730...

My first reaction was "Whaaaaat? No waaaaaay it costs that fuc-..." and then the Xbox Series X shop page loaded and showed a price of $729.99 CAD.

Holy sh-tballs, I had no idea it was that much now.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

My first reaction was "Whaaaaat? No waaaaaay it costs that fuc-..." and then the Xbox Series X shop page loaded and showed a price of $729.99 CAD.

Holy sh-tballs, I had no idea it was that much now.

And the cheapest 5070 video card is $800. These prices are apparently the new normal.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

My first reaction was "Whaaaaat? No waaaaaay it costs that fuc-..." and then the Xbox Series X shop page loaded and showed a price of $729.99 CAD.

Holy sh-tballs, I had no idea it was that much now.

Wow, guess I should look into selling my Series X that has hardly seen any use

[I_H8_Crawford]

I just added Gamepass Ultimate to my Series X after doing PS Plus for the past couple years... DAMN. SO MANY GAMES.

I just wish I could use the PS5 controller with my xbox - i like those ones better

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Wow, guess I should look into selling my Series X that has hardly seen any use

I literally have had a spare Xbox Series X console sitting in my closet since spring of 2023 as I only own one television.

[chemgear]

More console price increases coming. Black Friday should be interesting.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/mi...212246215.html

Microsoft said on Friday it is raising the prices of its Xbox gaming consoles in the U.S. for a second time this year, as the cloud giant's video game division grapples with tariff-induced cost pressures, strong competition and uncertain spending.

The price increases, which Microsoft attributes to "changes in the macroeconomic environment," will apply to its current generation of hardware, with the one-terabyte Series S set to cost around $450 and the high-end Series X around $650 when the changes go into effect on October 3.

The special edition two-terabyte Galaxy Black Series X will now retail for nearly $800.

[TorqueDog]

I wonder if any Xbox Series X hoarder/scalper-types diamond-handed all the consoles they bought during the pandemic, they might be able to make money on them now.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I wonder if any Xbox Series X hoarder/scalper-types diamond-handed all the consoles they bought during the pandemic, they might be able to make money on them now.

I think a lot of scalpers aim to make a fast buck. They aim to go from fast fluctuations in the market and play on those fluctuations. The capital cost per unit at around $500 to make 50% isn't worth it when there are other options with lower capital cost that can match it, or other options where you can lose your shirt, or hit something at a 5-50x rate of return.

The hoarder/scalper thing is just straight up gambling now. Hoarders are never going to sell. Most scalpers are no longer just aiming to make an incremental amount, most are "scalping" to spin off the extra stuff they luck into that they don't need. Those that are disciplined in being a "reseller" type scalper are a lot more rare now IMO.

Looking at how this area evolved, I envision Walter White's shaking his head and saying, "We don't eat our own supply".

[Sr. Mints]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

I think a lot of scalpers aim to make a fast buck. They aim to go from fast fluctuations in the market and play on those fluctuations. The capital cost per unit at around $500 to make 50% isn't worth it when there are other options with lower capital cost that can match it, or other options where you can lose your shirt, or hit something at a 5-50x rate of return.

The hoarder/scalper thing is just straight up gambling now. Hoarders are never going to sell. Most scalpers are no longer just aiming to make an incremental amount, most are "scalping" to spin off the extra stuff they luck into that they don't need. Those that are disciplined in being a "reseller" type scalper are a lot more rare now IMO.

Looking at how this area evolved, I envision Walter White's shaking his head and saying, "We don't eat our own supply".

Maybe 12-15 years ago I decided to buy two of every LEGO set I'd want to build, one to open, one to sell when the set retired. At first I made a killing, basically funding my own hobby. Now I have about 40 sets tucked away in storage because I lost interest.

It was a fun experiment. . . Yeah, let's call it an experiment.

[chemgear]

More USD price updates. Inflation continues.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1973388209687003547

From the IGN Xbox podcast host guy.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1973399113208098853

[The Yen Man]

I know this is a totally illogical reason, but personally, I've not even looked into gamepass even though it's such a good deal, because for me, having access to a ton of games at once makes me lose focus on spending time playing the actual games I want to play. I find if I buy a game and focus my energy one game at a time, I end up extracting way more value of out of that games than if I just float between so many games.

[dino7c]

I notice all the gamepass games are base versions too...always looking to upsell the DLC and micro transactions. I assume that stuff will just get worse.

Here is your "free" half a game...$49 to play the rest of it

[Erick Estrada]

Well worth the price increase. I have barely purchased any games this year because of Gamepass.

[Inferno]

I haven't paid for Game Pass in probably two years when my stacked 3 year subscription ended when you could convert 1:1 for Xbox Live and I don't think I'm renewing PS+ either. It's just too much considering I already have a huge backlog.

I still use Microsoft Points to get free months of PC Game Pass but that depends on if there's a game I really want to play and then I try and finish it within the month.

[PepsiFree]

How much gaming do you have to do to make $425 per year “worth it” lol

Xbox is so weird

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

How much gaming do you have to do to make $425 per year “worth it” lol

Xbox is so weird

It's not a crazy amount given how much is on there. I'm on PS and don't play anywhere near what I used to, but gamepass is still a good deal if you want a wide variety of games.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

It's not a crazy amount given how much is on there. I'm on PS and don't play anywhere near what I used to, but gamepass is still a good deal if you want a wide variety of games.

Still at the $425 price? Seems crazy to me

Local library games are free, 6 month old games are usually under $30. Older games and last years sports titles are often available for under $10. I am set until July but I'm likely done with gamepass.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Still at the $425 price? Seems crazy to me

Local library games are free, 6 month old games are usually under $30. Older games and last years sports titles are often available for under $10. I am set until July but I'm likely done with gamepass.

It's situational but at that yearly price, yeah, it's less than five brand new games. Microsoft probably need some original IPs, but even Sony seem to be struggling to bring out top quality original games.