What to do with Daniil Miromanov

[Reggie Dunlop]

Using Puckpedia's Buyout Calculator, it would cost $416,667/season for two years.

Or you could pay him $1.2 million in the AHL.

He could go back to Russia and pick up a pretty decent KHL contract in the meantime.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Using Puckpedia's Buyout Calculator, it would cost $416,667/season for two years.

Or you could pay him $1.2 million in the AHL.

He could go back to Russia and pick up a pretty decent KHL contract in the meantime.

He's under the threshold to go to the AHL and accumulate no cap hit.

No way you add a cap hit for two years to buy him out.

[sureLoss]

Buyout window has passed for this season


https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/buyouts

Buyout Period

Buyouts can start on the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the Playoffs end, and the buyout period ends June 30 at 5pm Eastern.

Teams may receive an additional Buyout window. If a team has a player go to arbitration and it is either settled or awarded, the team receives a new 48 hour buyout window beginning 3 days after the arbitration settlement or award. The only contracts that are eligible to be bought out in this window are for player with Cap Hits greater than $4M AND they were on the team's roster at the last trade deadline.

[blankall]

Naw. The Flames don't need him now, but what if Andersson is traded and there's a couple of injuries. The Flames will need warm bodies. Makes more sense just to pay him than to save 300k and potentially have to sign someone new.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Buyout window has passed for this season


https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/buyouts

Thanks for the info.

A missed opportunity that probably would have been for the best.

[TheScorpion]

Even if they could there's no point, just put him in the AHL

[united]

Originally Posted by Bingo

He's under the threshold to go to the AHL and accumulate no cap hit.

Incorrect.

[Toonage]

Ooh this brings up another pet peeve from Flames radio. Talking about how the cap means little this year as they have so much space but putting a guy like Miromanov's salary in the minors is not acceptable.

[GullFoss]

The flames could extract more value by trading him, 50% retained, for an draft pick. Even without that retention, he might have value at the deadline

[gvitaly]

Flames 1-way contracts that might end up on the Wranglers this year:
Forwards
Kirkland $0.9M

Defense
Bean $1.75M
Miromanov $1.25M
Solovyov $0.78M
* Kuznetsov $0.85M(starting next year)

Goalies
Prosvetov $0.95M
Cooley $0.78M

Then there are the AHL vets like Hunt making $400k, and Bishop $350k, making a bit more than the usual $80-150k.

Would there be a point where the owners try to limit the amount of spending on the AHL squad like Steinberg suggested? Or is it just the new reality of having multiple players on 1-way contract in the AHL for depth?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by united

Incorrect.

Last I looked it was $1.25M

What's the threshold?

Found it ... NHL Min Salary + $375K = hurdle

775 + 375 = 1.15M

100K counting against the cap.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Last I looked it was $1.25M

What's the threshold?

I think it's $1.15M but that is such a small difference anyway.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Thanks for the info.

A missed opportunity that probably would have been for the best.

It's not a missed opportunity at all. They can waive him and someone takes the whole salary, or he gets sent down and the salary is buried.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I think it's $1.15M but that is such a small difference anyway.

Yeah point stands.

1 year of 100K (and a callup option) vs two years of close to 500K of cap hit.

[Flamesfan05]

Waive him and use as a depth in case of injuries or others not meeting expectations

Or for the big tank coming up for McKenna

[Naitix]

I think you waive him and then trade him for anything or nothing. He should not take up ice time from Morin, Bru etc

[FlamesAddiction]

Just waive him and if no one picks him up, send him to the Wranglers. Who knows, he may just refuse to report and the Flames can get out of the contract that way. If not, at least you have a depth guy you can call up later if needed.

[The Cobra]

Doubtful that any team takes him on waivers, has he's not very good and isn't young at 28 for a still developing dman.

Conroy thought he was worth a gamble, it hasn't worked out.

His contract is not a big deal, and likely not worth discussing.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Flames 1-way contracts that might end up on the Wranglers this year:
Forwards
Kirkland $0.9M

Defense
Bean $1.75M
Miromanov $1.25M
Solovyov $0.78M
* Kuznetsov $0.85M(starting next year)

Goalies
Prosvetov $0.95M
Cooley $0.78M

Then there are the AHL vets like Hunt making $400k, and Bishop $350k, making a bit more than the usual $80-150k.

Would there be a point where the owners try to limit the amount of spending on the AHL squad like Steinberg suggested? Or is it just the new reality of having multiple players on 1-way contract in the AHL for depth?

I doubt it.

Calgary is $11m under the NHL cap with Miromanov, Bean and Kirkland on the roster so the owners are saving money at the NHL level anyway. I'm sure they might start asking questions if Conroy hands out a lot more NHL contracts that they need to bury as time goes on, but they probably are good encouraging competition so that the NHL results are better.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Flames 1-way contracts that might end up on the Wranglers this year:
Forwards
Kirkland $0.9M

Defense
Bean $1.75M
Miromanov $1.25M
Solovyov $0.78M
* Kuznetsov $0.85M(starting next year)

Goalies
Prosvetov $0.95M
Cooley $0.78M

Then there are the AHL vets like Hunt making $400k, and Bishop $350k, making a bit more than the usual $80-150k.

Would there be a point where the owners try to limit the amount of spending on the AHL squad like Steinberg suggested? Or is it just the new reality of having multiple players on 1-way contract in the AHL for depth?

I’m sure they have an AHL budget, but who knows what that is.

I do think a Miromanov buyout would have made sense before the start of the year, he’s really not in the plans and I don’t see that he has a role in the AHL. Save some money and let him find a job elsewhere.

He won’t get claimed on waivers and doesn’t have trade value IMO.