American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

They have freedom of speech but not freedom of consequences.

So you think Charlie Kirk deserved to get shot to death in public?

Crazy stuff

[MonaTone]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

This is horrible.
I knew the drug problem was bad, but who knew drugs were responsible for 500% of total world wide deaths? It's tragic.

America is so broken that they have a stronger reaction to one alt-right propagandist dying than 93% of their total population.

Where were the flags at half mast and moments of silence for the nearly 1 million daily overdose deaths?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

They have freedom of speech but not freedom of consequences.

Can you fսcking people make up your minds?

Either you're not okay with people being killed for their opinions/speech or you are. Pick a lane.

For the record, none of us are in favour of people being killed for their opinions, we just decline to feel bad about it when it's someone who was perfectly content for others to suffer and/or die for his points of view.

[Johnny Makarov]

LOL. Even their 1st world theme parks can't save that kyithole country now.

[puffnstuff]

@realDonaldTrump
Subject to SEC Approval, Companies and Corporations should no longer be forced to “Report” on a quarterly basis (Quarterly Reporting!), but rather to Report on a “Six (6) Month Basis.” This will save money, and allow managers to focus on properly running their companies. Did you ever hear the statement that, “China has a 50 to 100 year view on management of a company, whereas we run our companies on a quarterly basis??? Not good!!!

Definitely dont want companies reporting in a timely matter about the effects of tariffs or anything

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Can you fսcking people make up your minds?

Either you're not okay with people being killed for their opinions/speech or you are. Pick a lane.

For the record, none of us are in favour of people being killed for their opinions, we just decline to feel bad about it when it's someone who was perfectly content for others to suffer and/or die for his points of view.

To be fair, I don't think BlackRedGold was one of the posters that had a hissy fit over everyone calling Kirk a POS; so, perhaps he's truly a free speech advocate

[CliffFletcher]

Lots of people being inconsistent about this stuff.

Is it a good thing when employers fire people for making comments, including in their non-work social media activities, that some of the employer’s audience or customers find offensive?

I personally think it’s a bad thing. But for a great many online culture warriors, the answer to that question is entirely contingent on whether their politics align with the person being fired.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

@realDonaldTrump
Subject to SEC Approval, Companies and Corporations should no longer be forced to “Report” on a quarterly basis (Quarterly Reporting!), but rather to Report on a “Six (6) Month Basis.” This will save money, and allow managers to focus on properly running their companies. Did you ever hear the statement that, “China has a 50 to 100 year view on management of a company, whereas we run our companies on a quarterly basis??? Not good!!!

Definitely dont want companies reporting in a timely matter about the effects of tariffs or anything

I guess European exchanges introduced 6-month requirements in 2013, so i can see this as falling in line with other exchanges and markets.

But, yes, I question why they do it now considering tariffs and a potential recession.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

@realDonaldTrump
Subject to SEC Approval, Companies and Corporations should no longer be forced to “Report” on a quarterly basis (Quarterly Reporting!), but rather to Report on a “Six (6) Month Basis.” This will save money, and allow managers to focus on properly running their companies. Did you ever hear the statement that, “China has a 50 to 100 year view on management of a company, whereas we run our companies on a quarterly basis??? Not good!!!

Definitely dont want companies reporting in a timely matter about the effects of tariffs or anything

It's not necessarily an awful idea. The fight for short term results leads to short term decisions. But it might make it easier for companies to hide the bad stuff.

[Harry Lime]

It also puts a dent in the perpetual growth model of modern economics, which is a horrible model.

I always loved that a company with stable profit over a long term was considered a horrible failure, but a volatile "disturber" that showed short term growth was a success.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Lots of people being inconsistent about this stuff.

Is it a good thing when employers fire people for making comments, including in their non-work social media activities, that some of the employer’s audience or customers find offensive?

I personally think it’s a bad thing. But for a great many online culture warriors, the answer to that question is entirely contingent on whether their politics align with the person being fired.

I agree with what you’re saying, and I’ve never advocated someone lose their job over something they said, but I don’t feel bad when someone recorded being racist in public gets fired. Shouting the n word at a black waitress should cause you to face consequences like that.

Saying Kirk’s children are better off without him should not lead to a job loss because a) those words on a forum like this are not going to actually affect their lives in any way, and b) it is possibly true, especially if they grow up queer, atheist, or anything else Kirk was against.

[mikephoen]

America is a fascist county. The population needs to accept this new reality. If an American is posting anything other than pictures of their pets on social media they're an idiot.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Can you fսcking people make up your minds?

Either you're not okay with people being killed for their opinions/speech or you are. Pick a lane.

For the record, none of us are in favour of people being killed for their opinions, we just decline to feel bad about it when it's someone who was perfectly content for others to suffer and/or die for his points of view.

You’ll probably have to clarify why you took issue with a post I made earlier where I was saying I didn’t agree with people celebrating how(murder) his message was stopped.

Pick a lane?

[TorqueDog]

You framed any lack of grief as implicit applause for the killing itself, which is precisely backwards. One can oppose political assassination while also refusing to pretend its target was a saint. You managed to collapse two distinct reactions into one so you could posture as the voice of reason while scolding people for insufficient tears. TrentCrimmIndependent already tried that, it's a tired schtick.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Almost HALF the US population died last year? I mean, according to the census there's 342,490,190 people in the United States, so if 300 million died last year.. no wonder they're so mad about fentanyl!

This is the math the Trump administration is using for everything- For example prescription drug prices being reduced by 1500%- like are they going to pay people for them?

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

You framed any lack of grief as implicit applause for the killing itself, which is precisely backwards. One can oppose political assassination while also refusing to pretend its target was a saint. You managed to collapse two distinct reactions into one so you could posture as the voice of reason while scolding people for insufficient tears. TrentCrimmIndependent already tried that, it's a tired schtick.

This seems to be the biggest fallacy of the Kirk's supporters. Me not celebrating Charlie Kirk's life, is not me celebrating his death. I am fully comfortable not supporting flags at half staff, normalizing the awful things he said or shedding tears for him, while something in the neighbourhood of 50,000 people will die through gun violence this year.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

You framed any lack of grief as implicit applause for the killing itself, which is precisely backwards. One can oppose political assassination while also refusing to pretend its target was a saint. You managed to collapse two distinct reactions into one so you could posture as the voice of reason while scolding people for insufficient tears. TrentCrimmIndependent already tried that, it's a tired schtick.

That may be how you interpreted it but that was not I was saying at all or how I intended for my post to be interpreted. I even stated that I could understand people’s relief in his messaging being stopped but I didn’t think cheering on outright murder as a mean to achieving that was something to be applauded. I don’t know how anything I wrote could be interpreted “scolding” anyone for not being sympathetic about him being dead but you’re welcome to explain how you came to that conclusion. If that was how you or anyone else interpreted it hopefully it’s clearer to you now.

Sincerely,

Someone who is likely at a much higher risk of being shot for sharing his political views than you but welcomes any opportunity to debate them.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

That may be how you interpreted it but that was not I was saying at all or how I intended for my post to be interpreted. I even stated that I could understand people’s relief in his messaging being stopped but I didn’t think cheering on outright murder as a mean to achieving that was something to be applauded. I don’t know how anything I wrote could be interpreted “scolding” anyone for not being sympathetic about him being dead but you’re welcome to explain how you came to that conclusion. If that was how you or anyone else interpreted it hopefully it’s clearer to you now.

Sincerely,

Someone who is likely at a much higher risk of being shot for sharing his political views than you but welcomes any opportunity to debate them.

LOL When all else fails, invoke the victim Olympics.

Piss off, Iggy; oppression isn't a debate coupon you can flash when cornered, and it doesn't magically launder a weak argument. I'm a half-Pakistani dude whose skin tone puts him on the wrong side of "…hmm, is he deportable?" I would certainly be at a very real risk of being shot or shipped off to Venezuela if I set foot there, and it's thanks to the rhetoric of people like Kirk and his sհitbird ilk who make it possible. I still stop well short of anything approaching 'cheering'.

And for the millionth bloody time, the vast majority here are not cheering. We simply reject the absurd notion that refusing to weep for the loss of a preacher of carnage is equivalent to endorsing his murder. That distinction matters, and it's mighty telling that your only response is to clutch your hypothetical bullet wounds in the face of discussing real ones.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Holy crap there's no way iggy thinks he might get popped for his comments on here lol. If we were in America, maybe I guess, but goddamn that is some egomania of the highest order. No one is capping you for being a union cultist.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Holy crap there's no way iggy thinks he might get popped for his comments on here lol. If we were in America, maybe I guess, but goddamn that is some egomania of the highest order. No one is capping you for being a union cultist.

A lot of these types can't tell the difference between the two countries. Hence the continuous harping about freedom of speech, the First Amendment, blah blah blah. I saw a giant lifted pickup with an Albertan and an American flag mounted up to the back. Just nonsensical BS.