American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

I’m not a huge Kirk fan although I did admire him, but the post about the kids being better off really bothered me. I can’t remember the last time I read something online that really bothered me a day or two later. When I see people rushing to defend it I am baffled. It seems like we’ve lost all our humanity. I rarely post because I seldom get worked up about what people post online but this one got to me. I had a friend whose dad died when he was 10 and it was unquestionably the worst thing that ever happened to him by a factor of 100. When I see it casually thrown out like it’s nothing and people seemingly agreeing with it I wonder what has happened to everyone.

What did you admire about Kirk?

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

That’s terrible. If I was running the news station I would fire him. I don’t think the murder of people should ever be condoned. Although apparently if the kids are better off it might be ok.

The question of what to do next is difficult.Should that host ever work in TV again? I don’t know. Should John Rocker or Bill Peters starve to death? Probably not, but I wouldn’t go to flames games if he was the coach. Is there any way to restoration after comments like that? I don’t know but it’s a question society needs to figure out. If an 18 year old says the N word there should be consequences but probably not for 50 years.

Great, what should we do about

• advocating for the public hanging of unconvicted defendants.
• calling people who attacked and killed police officers patriots
• saying we need more violent and putative law enforcement
• saying that public servants should be punched in the face.
• glorifying vigilantes murdering people in the streets
• saying young thugs need to feel consequences for their actions

What do we do about an organization that systemically and repeatedly advocates for political violence, regardless of who is representing that organization in the moment.

People who say it is both good for individuals to take matters into their own hands and gun others down in the streets, and police need to be more violent, but it is ok if people are violent towards police if their causes "patriotic". but also that people who are gunning others down in the streets need to face severe and public consequences. What do we do about an organization that scoffs at due process, and say we should jump to punishment before trial or investigation.

It's really really confusing, you can understand how contradictory all of those things are.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

I am good with a short list reserved for people who say kids are better off when their parents are murdered.

Then maybe you want to take your own advice and be careful you don’t end up on a list yourself. Not many people I know would be eager to do business with a guy who is fine hiring people who support child killing but won’t hire someone who says maybe kids are better off without a Nazi as a parent.

Kind of screwed up.

[White Out 403]

Watching the right of the American conservative movement gaslight people about political violence is exhausting.

Ever since rush limbaugh the american conservative has breathlessly been fomenting hate for the left and government for 40 years. it is beyond rich watching blowhards like megany kelly and vinny from PBD (maybe the biggest piece of #### in social media) say that the left is the violent political side in the usa.

[Muta]

Trump Says ‘Smart People Don’t Like Me’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...-dont-like-me/

...which is also the same as saying, dumb people like him. His followers will find ways to spin doctor this in their favour somehow too, I'm sure, even though Trump has directly implied his followers are stupid.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

"I love the poorly educated" is a direct quote you can easily find. This isn't news.

Smart people don't like Trump because Trump himself is stupid, but he's just smart enough to seem smart to the other dumb mother####ers like him that don't read. So much so that they elected his ass to become president. He is the Dunning-Kruger effect on steroids.

[puffnstuff]

Reporter: The president of Venezuela called the strike on the boat illegal

Trump: What’s illegal is the fact that 300 million people died last year from drugs

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.s.../3lytm5cunnp2f

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Reporter: The president of Venezuela called the strike on the boat illegal

Trump: What’s illegal is the fact that 300 million people died last year from drugs

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.s.../3lytm5cunnp2f

Almost HALF the US population died last year? I mean, according to the census there's 342,490,190 people in the United States, so if 300 million died last year.. no wonder they're so mad about fentanyl!

[puffnstuff]

Reminded me of the wild claims Bondi made in the spring...

Last week, however, Attorney General Pam Bondi put other law enforcement to shame with a staggering new claim: that drug busts during the first 100 days of the Trump administration had saved 119 million lives. (She soon issued a correction, announcing at last week’s Cabinet meeting that the true figure was more than twice as high: 258 million.)

So is everyone dying or are they being saved?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Way to miss all the points. Five stars.


Isn't this just the cancel culture people on the right were so determined to stamp out?

They were never looking to stamp it out, they just wanted the upper hand.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Mickey is engaging in the same type of disingenuous debating Kirk did. Ignore all the hard questions about the substance of your position, and carry on with the obvious stuff most people can generally agree on. You'll appear fair because you never address the base position others find so evil.

It's happening in another thread, as well.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

I never said I would hire Charlie. If you post after a tragic death of a young father that his kids are better off without him you’ll find the employment market frosty.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

What other post-tragedy posts make your list?

Americans who are unbothered by military actions that include civilian casualties in the Middle Easy? Jews who are unbothered by women and children dying in Gaza? Ukrainians or, really anyone, who is unbothered by Russian deaths? Albertans who support the UCP’s limiting of healthcare and education to LGBTQ youth, despite the suicides that happen due to this lack of healthcare?

How big is your list? Who is on it?

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Hey I noticed you ignored my question over who else is on your list. Care to go back and give it a try?

Mickey, would it be fair if we curate a list of people/tragedies and the subsequent online commenting targets to dox/not hire/destroy from the last two years and you "yay" or "ney" to each one? I'd be down for that. I'm confused by your fixation on only this one, and I think seeing where you line up on other tragedies would clear things up and maybe show consistency on your part?

[Drak]

Doxxing people who don’t like Charlie Kirk with a database list will lead to a much greater series of consequences than firings and unemployment. People will be harmed and possibly killed in this explosive environment.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Drak

Doxxing people who don’t like Charlie Kirk with a database list will lead to a much greater series of consequences than firings and unemployment. People will be harmed and possibly killed in this explosive environment.

As intended. Let’s be clear about that.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Drak

Doxxing people who don’t like Charlie Kirk with a database list will lead to a much greater series of consequences than firings and unemployment. People will be harmed and possibly killed in this explosive environment.

That's what these anti-social losers are hoping for.

[Drak]

Guess Mickey76 didn’t think about that…

[puffnstuff]

Last year: Austin Peay State University learns prof is Nazi who went to Charlottesville rally. Admin drags heels, pays him $56k severance to leave
This week: APSU prof posts screenshot of headline - Charlie Kirk Says Gun Deaths ‘Unfortunately’ Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment- & is immediately fired

https://bsky.app/profile/letsgomathi.../3lysxw4hauk2i

[BlackRedGold25]

Originally Posted by Drak

Doxxing people who don’t like Charlie Kirk with a database list will lead to a much greater series of consequences than firings and unemployment. People will be harmed and possibly killed in this explosive environment.

They have freedom of speech but not freedom of consequences.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

It has nothing to do with politics. The comment that upsets me is the kids are better off with their dad having been murdered. I don’t know who the most liberal person in the US congress is but if they were murdered I would call for the same consequences if someone suggested their kids were better off with their parent murdered. I’ve never thought of it until now because I’ve never seen such an outrageous post.

So you're a snowflake that immediately overreacts to someone's pithy statement about the death of some guy that is known for just generally being a piece of #### troll whose only credit can be indoctrinating and "radicalizing" a generation of privileged white kids who think that the world owes them more.

And your response to that is to collect all the data you can about them, so that in your hypothetical world where you are now the hiring manager of some type of business, you can have the satisfaction of saying "no thank you" to them when they apply for a job.

Let me guess? everyone at work claps, right?

Also, pedophiles aren't political to sane people.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Reporter: The president of Venezuela called the strike on the boat illegal

Trump: What’s illegal is the fact that 300 million people died last year from drugs

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.s.../3lytm5cunnp2f

This is horrible.
I knew the drug problem was bad, but who knew drugs were responsible for 500% of total world wide deaths? It's tragic.