Charlie Kirk Assassination Thread

[Smartcar]

I'm sure he meant random gun deaths, not targeted ones like his own. I find it ironic that the gunman was an even farther-right nutjob not transgender as the MAGA crowd were suggesting.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I like "The Limbaugh Line" analogy. I may borrow it.

[BlackRedGold25]

Originally Posted by troutman

Journalist and college professor Stacey Patton goes viral by penning a stunningly powerful statement about how she was on Charlie Kirk’s “digital hit list” and recounting the horror that he inflicted on her.

We cannot allow this tragic assassination to whitewash Kirk’s legacy…

“I am on Charlie Kirk’s hit list,” Patton wrote to her 215,000 followers on Facebook. “His so-called ‘Professor Watchlist,’ run under the umbrella of Turning Point USA, is nothing more than a digital hit list for academics who dare to speak truth to power. I landed there in 2024 after writing commentary that inflamed the MAGA faithful. And once my name went up, the harassment machine roared to life.”

“For weeks my inbox and voicemail were deluged. Mostly white men spat venom through the phone: ‘bitch,’ ‘c*nt,’ ‘n****r.’ They threatened all manner of violence,” she continued.

“They overwhelmed the university’s PR lines and the president’s office with calls demanding that I be fired,” Patton wrote. “The flood was so relentless that the head of campus security reached out to offer me an escort, because they feared one of these keyboard soldiers might step out of his basement and come do me harm.”

“And I am not unique,” she added.

“Kirk’s Watchlist has terrorized legions of professors across this country. Women, Black faculty, queer scholars, basically anyone who challenged white supremacy, gun culture, or Christian nationalism suddenly found themselves targets of coordinated abuse,” Patton wrote.

“Some received death threats. Some had their jobs threatened. Some left academia entirely. Kirk sent the loud message to us: speak the truth and we will unleash the mob!” she continued.

“That is the culture of violence Charlie Kirk built. He normalized violence. He curated it, monetized it, and sicced it on anyone who dared to puncture his movement’s lies,” she wrote. [OccupyDemocrats]

Here's the page that she's talking about - https://www.professorwatchlist.org/p...r/staceypatton

It does nothing more than amplify what she has already said publicly.

Being upset that the attempted Trump assassination failed is not speaking truth.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Smartcar

I'm sure he meant random gun deaths, not targeted ones like his own. I find it ironic that the gunman was an even farther-right nutjob not transgender as the MAGA crowd were suggesting.

No, he wasn't.

ow, we must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price. 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That's a price. You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving — speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services — is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. So we need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. You could significantly reduce them through having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.

You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I, I — I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check...205500283.html

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I had to up the privacy on my FB account. Some nutjob from California called my place of employment to try and get me fired. They laughed at him and hung up.

They can't fire you - you quit!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Language

The American Politics thread where this is being discussed at length, is absolutely ghoulish and filled with such hate and disgusting comments. It’s literally repulsive how sick in the head people can be.

The ironic thing is that everyone there calling him a Nazi and fascist, is exactly the extreme and dangerous language that contributes to political violence.

People can’t even express their political opinions anymore without being labeled with these terms, which in turn, motivates these psycho lone wolf shooters in thinking that murdering someone with a dissenting “hateful” opinion is a righteous cause.

And beyond that, it’s not even clear what a “Nazi” or “fascist” even means these days. You have people on both sides of the political spectrum labeling the other as such.

It creates such a dangerous environment where there can’t even be peaceful and dissenting political discourse.


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You'd think someone with the username "language" could figure out what a ####ing word means. I'm pretty sure there are clear definitions of these terms. Maybe check out the definition and then look at Kirk's words. You'll see someone that is pretty much a fascist who happens to believe in free speech...as a tool to spread fascism.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Language

The American Politics thread where this is being discussed at length, is absolutely ghoulish and filled with such hate and disgusting comments. It’s literally repulsive how sick in the head people can be.

The ironic thing is that everyone there calling him a Nazi and fascist, is exactly the extreme and dangerous language that contributes to political violence.

People can’t even express their political opinions anymore without being labeled with these terms, which in turn, motivates these psycho lone wolf shooters in thinking that murdering someone with a dissenting “hateful” opinion is a righteous cause.

And beyond that, it’s not even clear what a “Nazi” or “fascist” even means these days. You have people on both sides of the political spectrum labeling the other as such.

It creates such a dangerous environment where there can’t even be peaceful and dissenting political discourse.


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Are you trying to police people's free speech rights? Why can't we comment, using facts and his own words about they type of person he was? His hate speech was peaceful and dissenting political discourse(where he says black people are clearly less than) but us saying that's stuff Fascists would say is somehow over the line? Maybe you should look up what Fascists believe and then compare it to his own words and come back and tell us all where we got it wrong.

No, don't worry, I won't wait.

[WideReceiver]

No one should die like that but I haven’t heard any of his viewpoints that I agree with. Appreciation? Not a chance.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

You'd think someone with the username "language" could figure out what a ####ing word means. I'm pretty sure there are clear definitions of these terms. Maybe check out the definition and then look at Kirk's words. You'll see someone that is pretty much a fascist who happens to believe in free speech...as a tool to spread fascism.

Yep.

But to be fair,
“There’s no genocide in Gaza!” Same poster, same energy.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Sure, deflect, ignore the problem. Disguise the ugliness of what has been said in this thread. Conflate it with you projecting my political leanings into the conversation.

No. What has happened in these posts just shows a derangement of some people in this thread. Full stop. If you think what has been said is fine, then you’re not okay.

Clutch those pearls harder, I'm sure that will fix things

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by Language

Cool man. You keep calling everyone you don’t agree with a fascist and a Nazi. I’m sure you’re going to continue to make things safer.

Did you even read what I wrote? I never said it was a liberal issue. I said both sides using that rhetoric is dangerous and needs to be toned down. Learn to read.

Edit - Calling someone a terrible person, as you did in your last post, because they don’t agree with your opinion, is a sure way to prove that you’re a rational and sane person. Get help.


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So, to sum up:

Calling someone a Nazi if you disagree with them, that's bad

Calling someone terrible if you disagree with them, that's bad

Implying that someone isn't rational or sane if you disagree with them, that's fine

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

No one should die like that but I haven’t heard any of his viewpoints that I agree with. Appreciation? Not a chance.

Think the point people are trying to make is that you can’t murder people because you disagree with their viewpoint. But that’s where we’ve gotten to as a society.

Doubt it will end well.

[Drak]

No one here thinks you should murder anyone for an opposing viewpoint. You continue to just make #### up.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Language

Cool man. You keep calling everyone you don’t agree with a fascist and a Nazi. I’m sure you’re going to continue to make things safer.

Did you even read what I wrote? I never said it was a liberal issue. I said both sides using that rhetoric is dangerous and needs to be toned down. Learn to read.

Edit - Calling someone a terrible person, as you did in your last post, because they don’t agree with your opinion, is a sure way to prove that you’re a rational and sane person. Get help.


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Keep defending people like Charlie Kirk.

So many bigots and racists showing their true colours now that a bigot is in the White House. I honestly never knew CP had so many closet bigots and racists.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

https://twitter.com/user/status/1966556703534481748

He’s talking about some of you. I don’t care where you sit politically, some of the behaviour in this thread is nothing but you flaunting your own mental illnesses.

Where was your outrage over thousands of other murders in the US and A?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Think the point people are trying to make is that you can’t murder people because you disagree with their viewpoint. But that’s where we’ve gotten to as a society.

Doubt it will end well.

There’s no way to meaningfully affect change in the American political system anymore.

Health care, guns, taxes, abortion, immigration, infrastructure - it’s all impossible.

And if it becomes impossible to legislate these problems under control, then violence is what’s required.

It’s probably the most American think I can imagine.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Keep defending people like Charlie Kirk.

So many bigots and racists showing their true colours now that a bigot is in the White House. I honestly never knew CP had so many closet bigots and racists.

Now now. They could just be bigot/racist/fascist curious…

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

There’s no way to meaningfully affect change in the American political system anymore.

Health care, guns, taxes, abortion, immigration, infrastructure - it’s all impossible.

And if it becomes impossible to legislate these problems under control, then violence is what’s required.

It’s probably the most American think I can imagine.

In terms of civil war, should it occur in this time, if the military is assigned to a side then does the other side have a chance of winning?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Sure, deflect, ignore the problem.

What problem? A guy died and people aren't rending their garments over it?

FFS, there have been tons of people who have died to mixed reaction, especially lately. I didn't see you getting this upset over Hulk Hogan, who was also a POS despite some people liking him and had way less of a negative impact on the world overall.

Why are you so bent out of shape over the loss of one total a-hole? Because if it's just the fact that he was shot, no one has suggested that they support murdering people. It remains completely baffling to me that there are people whose brains are incapable of distinguishing between these concepts. I'm amazed that people like Goriders can walk and talk at the same time based on the posts I've seen the last couple of days.

[Reggie Dunlop]

It's becoming ridiculously easy to have a totalitarian state, technologically speaking.