American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[iggy_oi]

My 2 cents on this is that regardless of how awful of a person anyone may have considered him to be, him being murdered was not a good thing and shouldn’t be celebrated.

I can understand people hating what he stood for and to some degree even them being relieved that his ability to spread his message has been taken away. But pretending that this is any sort of a “win” is absurd. In my view this will only lead to further division, hatred and an escalation in political violence.

That having been said, all of the parties who have actively participated in and contributed to stoking the fire of the current state of political division in the world whether it be politicians, celebrities or the media all coming out and denouncing what happened is one of the most hypocritical things I’ve seen in my life. In most cases they are doing so while continuing to create further division which is absolutely deplorable. What did all these idiots expect to happen as a result of brainwashing people into thinking that everyone falls on one side or the other in the political spectrum and that the side you’re not on is evil by default?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Someone should go and set up a tent with a sign that reads, "Charlie Kirk was a piece of ####, change my mind".

Good way to get screamed at and have the most socially deficient people you’ve ever seen threaten to kill you for “celebrating murder” with zero self awareness.

[dissentowner]

This was like throwing a pebble in the pond that is Donald Trump's plan of violence and division. That was always going to happen with this president regardless of Kirk getting shot.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

There’s a lot of real excellent Charlie Kirk content out there. I really recommend going down the rabbit hole and watching his clips if you’ve never done so.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

My 2 cents on this is that regardless of how awful of a person anyone may have considered him to be, him being murdered was not a good thing and shouldn’t be celebrated.

I can understand people hating what he stood for and to some degree even them being relieved that his ability to spread his message has been taken away. But pretending that this is any sort of a “win” is absurd. In my view this will only lead to further division, hatred and an escalation in political violence.

That having been said, all of the parties who have actively participated in and contributed to stoking the fire of the current state of political division in the world whether it be politicians, celebrities or the media all coming out and denouncing what happened is one of the most hypocritical things I’ve seen in my life. In most cases they are doing so while continuing to create further division which is absolutely deplorable. What did all these idiots expect to happen as a result of brainwashing people into thinking that everyone falls on one side or the other in the political spectrum and that the side you’re not on is evil by default?

Totally.

Influential figures constantly painting the other side as evil and nefarious in nature has consequences.

What that leads to is inspire impressionable people under your influence to be "heroes" and do something terrible in the name of what you preach.

Lets not forget that they are people too. Our neighbors, coworkers and fellow countrymen. And they have families and loved ones that suffer when we take our petty differences too far.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

There’s a lot of real excellent Charlie Kirk content out there. I really recommend going down the rabbit hole and watching his clips if you’ve never done so.

Watched a Charlie Kirk video for the first time the other day.
Can't say I agree with much of the content, but the ending was OK.

[The Fonz]

Sounds like I need to start an appreciation thread

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

There’s a lot of real excellent Charlie Kirk content out there. I really recommend going down the rabbit hole and watching his clips if you’ve never done so.

He was a very confident guy who did his homework (although dunking on 18-21 year olds isnt exactly a high bar), but a lot of the conclusions he drew from the information available was nonsensical (not all, but a lot).

Deep conviction in a controversial opinion with a like-minded crowd applauding your 'smooth' performance doesnt equate to spitting facts. If you are someone interested in social dynamics, you'll notice that he is very good at leading and steering conversations to his liking, and he never falls into the frame of whoever he is debating (and most kids have pretty fragile confidence, making them easy prey). But like Trump he fabricated his own truths, pushing narratives that ignored relevant information, and using secular reasons for why his views are correct should rightfully draw skepticism.

Great performer who could sell young impressionable onlookers the impression of dominance. Even seemed like a pretty good guy, all things aside. But he wasn't a source of truth.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sounds like I need to start an appreciation thread

That sounds like it would be an awesome thing for you.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Muta

Or Wormius could yell at them for supporting a racist bigot who supported repression, division, misogyny, violence and death, that too.

There are a few moments like this where sometimes I wish I had a big old diesel truck and could roll coal past some DB worshipping DBs.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sounds like I need to start an appreciation thread

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sounds like I need to start an appreciation thread

You gonna post his best quotes?

A day before his death, he said: "Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America."

[musth]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Say whatever you want and never have to be held to account.

Uh, that's the kinda thing that got this fella killed. The christian extremist movement is mind-boggingly hypocritical.

[#22]

The distraction is working perfectly

Can we just get back to focusing on Trump and his abhorrent administration and the fact that he is a pedophile?

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by #22

The distraction is working perfectly

Can we just get back to focusing on Trump and his abhorrent administration and the fact that he is a pedophile?

Turns out theres a Charlie quote for that too
"The DOJ should immediately move to unseal all the Epstein documents...Every file should be released to the public." - Sept. 2025

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by #22

The distraction is working perfectly

Can we just get back to focusing on Trump and his abhorrent administration and the fact that he is a pedophile?

Sure, but did you know Charlie Kirk is a father and husband?

Was a father and husband?

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sounds like I need to start an appreciation thread

Why not use that ongoing murder thread you created?

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Turns out theres a Charlie quote for that too
"The DOJ should immediately move to unseal all the Epstein documents...Every file should be released to the public." - Sept. 2025

He lures you in with these reasonable statements.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

My 2 cents on this is that regardless of how awful of a person anyone may have considered him to be, him being murdered was not a good thing and shouldn’t be celebrated.

I can understand people hating what he stood for and to some degree even them being relieved that his ability to spread his message has been taken away. But pretending that this is any sort of a “win” is absurd. In my view this will only lead to further division, hatred and an escalation in political violence.

That having been said, all of the parties who have actively participated in and contributed to stoking the fire of the current state of political division in the world whether it be politicians, celebrities or the media all coming out and denouncing what happened is one of the most hypocritical things I’ve seen in my life. In most cases they are doing so while continuing to create further division which is absolutely deplorable. What did all these idiots expect to happen as a result of brainwashing people into thinking that everyone falls on one side or the other in the political spectrum and that the side you’re not on is evil by default?

Yeah. The thing leading to further escalation starts with the messaging from the top

Call for civility? Nope. Radical left blah blah blah …

Who cares. Yesterday’s news. The White House ball room is really coming along

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

He lures you in with these reasonable statements.

And then hits you with that real truth straight to your veins.