American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[KelVarnsen]

Blaster couldn’t take it out on Berrios this week and it shows

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Blaster couldn’t take it out on Berrios this week and it shows

There's a joke here about Berrios missing the shot but I am above that sort of thing...

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Chances are decently high. Do Libtards know how to shoot like that?

Like what? It's not the easiest shot to take but any decent hunter has made that numerous times. And yes "libtards" own guns and use them.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by troutman

One dictator brought to justice . . .

Bolsonaro Sentenced to 27 Years in Prison for Plotting Coup in Brazil

Brazil’s Supreme Court convicted the former president of trying to cling to power after losing the 2022 election, including a plan to assassinate his opponent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/w...e=articleShare

Maybe there's hope for humanity yet.

[Bs&Cs]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The post also shows an incomprehensible lack of awareness of what the Reichstag fire was, a right wing political party using an event to overturn democracy

I also think the shooting might be a Reichstag event, as in the event that enables Trump to get rid of elections, declare martial law, suspend the constitution and take away guns from everybody but ICE, they need a martyr to persuade the dumb rubes to blindly give up their AR15's

Also worth noting that the Nazis set the fire.

So that post is interesting for a bunch of different reasons.

[Reggie Dunlop]

“I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”

— commonly attributed to Mark Twain (though coined by famed lawyer Clarence Darrow).

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

The fundamental nature of a resilient democracy and true freedom of speech is that you can 100% disagree and hate everything someone says, but will still defend their ability to say it.

The fact that someone was killed for publicly stating their opinion highlights the brittle state of American discourse.

Assassination of political figures is as American as Apple pie. Ask Lincoln and MLK.

[Bs&Cs]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Assassination of political figures is as American as Apple pie. Ask Lincoln and MLK.

Huey Long, Robert Kennedy, Medger Evers, MLK, Malcolm X- even George Lincoln Rockwell to run down the list, and not even mentioning the presidents who have been assassinated or very nearly killed. If you’re going to have a strong stance on something in the US, You better be prepared for someone to take a shot at you.

[puffnstuff]

https://kfoxtv.com/newsletter-daily/...ident-texas-tx

The son answered the door and, while he permitted the agents to search his home, claiming he had nothing to hide, he asked if they could wait first while he put the family dog, Chop, a Rottweiler, away in the bathroom before they walked in, as the dog could be aggressive.

Border Patrol agents then asked the son if he could show them some identification.

According to the family, it is at this point that the son went to his pickup truck to retrieve his ID and a Border Patrol agent entered the home and, as a result, ended up shooting the dog.

The family stressed that the agents knew-- the son had told them-- that Chop was put in the bathroom for their safety and that the agents opened the door, let Chop out and shot him.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Vedder

Didn’t notice people cheering that one on here so didn’t feel the need to comment. But a good attempt at whatabout’ing a murder I guess.

I actually think all murders are bad, and the type of commentary here is disgusting and indicative of larger societal rot.

It’s mostly an internet thing. The miserable loons who spend all day rage-posting about politics aren’t representative of wider society.

Why does the online world seem so toxic compared with normal life? Our research shows that a small number of divisive accounts could be responsible

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...the-rest-of-us

Most people share your belief that all murder is bad and the political identity of the person who was murdered doesn’t change that. The fact those calling out the ghoulish behaviour here are being denounced as right-wingers shows how out of touch with real-world social norms the loons are.

[bluejays]

After some pointed out who this Charlie Kirk character is, I watched his youtube videos for a bit. I don't see the "Hitler" in him, but it did occur to be that the States is made up of these characters who make a living debating to stir up the masses. People have stopped thinking for themselves and follow people like this more and more, siding with political beliefs and getting suckered into such topics. I shouldn't care what a person like him thinks but for some reason people have to identify themselves as RW or LW and follow that path. It's crazy but people really have to stop getting suckered into this nonsense.

[Drak]

Charlie Kirk wasn’t just some character. He ran TPUSA and was a powerful MAGA figure in Trump’s circus of clowns orbit. Saying people need to stop getting suckered into this nonsense are just words. As is claiming that wider society is unaffected by these politics. Millions of people have been radicalized and will continue to be radicalized by the huge network of social media outlets and the MSM pushing propaganda and disinformation, by design. The solution imo, is to clamp down on disinformation and hate speech in some fashion. But that’s a daunting task and will obviously create more problems with the free speech crowd.

[puffnstuff]

Some reports that the shooter is in custody.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Some reports that the shooter is in custody.

Trump is breaking the news on this it seems. As per the WSJ. How is it normal for a president to break the news on Kirk’s death and the suspect’s capture?

[Drak]

The Epstein stuff sure did fade away.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s mostly an internet thing. The miserable loons who spend all day rage-posting about politics aren’t representative of wider society.



Most people share your belief that all murder is bad and the political identity of the person who was murdered doesn’t change that. The fact those calling out the ghoulish behaviour here are being denounced as right-wingers shows how out of touch with real-world social norms the loons are.

If you want to pretend people being OK with a ghoulish racist bigot no longer spreading hate is some sort of negative human trait, go ahead. The real ghoulishness is that he was permitted to spread his hate for so long, and that people didn't reject it, and instead elevated him to a massive position of influence. I think you've got who the bad people are mixed up. But I guess if you aren't apart of one of the groups he relentlessly attacked, and you also fail to have empathy, it's easier to ignore that part of who he was and the damage he contributed to in American society(and spreading globally).


Here's some more of his cherished words, if you still disagree that he was a hate monger.

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...quotes-beliefs


Oh no! This guy is gone! Whatever will the world do without him?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s mostly an internet thing. The miserable loons who spend all day rage-posting about politics aren’t representative of wider society.



Most people share your belief that all murder is bad and the political identity of the person who was murdered doesn’t change that. The fact those calling out the ghoulish behaviour here are being denounced as right-wingers shows how out of touch with real-world social norms the loons are.

It’s true that most people believe that all murder is bad, including this one. I would wager 99-100% of the people in this thread included. But there is something unique among those who chime in repeatedly attempting to strip away the nuance and position themselves simply as those calling out “ghoulish behaviour.”

One of those posters turned around and wished other posters or their family members were murdered. Another one admitted to visiting pedophile communities and tried to attach them to the LGBTQ community. And you’ve used anti-LGBTQ hate speech and made light of this sort of “ghoulish behaviour” when it’s targeted toward someone you don’t like.

So perhaps it’s not the simple act of “standing up” that brings a label, but maybe people are actually quite a bit smarter than your ego would allow you to accept and are actually able to evaluate people beyond a single post.

Hard to say though, maybe you’re the moral hero you’re desperate to convince yourself you are.

[puffnstuff]

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lynbjh63l426

From his fox news bit this morning

EARHARDT: We have radicals on the right as well. How do we fix this country?

TRUMP: I'll tell you something that's gonna get me in trouble but I couldn't care less. The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. The radicals on the left are the problem.

And more lying

TRUMP: We have the Great Big Beautiful bill. That has tax cuts for the middle class. No tax on tips, no tax on social security, no tax on overtime
KILMEADE: We haven't felt that yet
TRUMP: You're gonna feel it really big

[Drak]

Spoken like a true fascist clown trying to distract from Epstein.

[Fuzz]

The president is asked whether there are any updates on the suspect in the Charlie Kirk killing.
Trump responds and says: "I think with a high degree of certainty we have him in custody."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c206zm81z4gt


He says, and nothing else is available. I'm gonna need more than just Trump's word, given that he's still in the Epstein files.