[News] Tkachuk, Gretzky, and Comm. Bettman set to be part of POTUS Trump's fitness committee

[EN FUEGO]

Originally Posted by Redrum

These guys? No. The point stands though.

trans people make up less than less than 0.002% (10/500,000) of US college athletes, and even fewer recent Olympians (0.001%) identify as trans.

Tell me again how this is about "saving women's sports". It's political faux outrage meant to stick it to folks who are sympathetic to trans folks....which thanks to said campaign is a group decreasing in number by the day.

I've never seen Trump attend a womens sporting event, just like many of the other rapists/non-rapists on that list.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by EN FUEGO

trans people make up less than less than 0.002% (10/500,000) of US college athletes, and even fewer recent Olympians (0.001%) identify as trans.

Tell me again how this is about "saving women's sports". It's political faux outrage meant to stick it to folks who are sympathetic to trans folks....which thanks to said campaign is a group decreasing in number by the day.

I've never seen Trump attend a womens sporting event, just like many of the other rapists/non-rapists on that list.

Careful, red and dusty didn’t work up the courage to share their edgy takes just to be attacked with facts.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

I don't see the antitrans stuff. I see the part about keeping men out of women's sports though.

Originally Posted by Redrum

Cant be pro womens sport and pro trans at the same time. Pick a side and prepare to be attacked for it.

Men are already barred from women's sports.

You know exactly what this is.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Megaertz is the biggest troll on this site. Contributes absolutely nothing.

Totally spelled Maga wrong too.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I’d bet that close to zero posters here would turn down the opportunity to be a multi-millionaire in South Florida, even if it meant slightly screwing over our old employer in the process. I’ve lived in Calgary for 50 years and would move out of this Arctic wasteland in an instant if I could afford to.

Come on now, Tkachuk could have played it about 50 different ways worse than how it actually went down. We ended up getting a haul despite not having much, if any, leverage.

I dont have Tkachuk money but I choose to live here as do many others with money...like you think nobody in Calgary has money? Florida can be good for a visit but its a pretty backwards place.

[Reggie Dunlop]

These guy's commitments basically amount to their name on a letterhead and maybe a photo op down the road. Merely performative.

The Trump administration has allowed public education to disintegrate, axed food programs for disadvantaged youngsters and are putting kids in cages.

It's not about their well-being.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by traptor

#### Tkachuk.


How many RFA superstars force their way out from their drafted team?
The organization treated him well and he screwed us.


Never got the apologists who continued to support him.

Really? Because from a contract and Tkatchuk's perspective, Treliving and the Flames tried to screw him by not giving him an 8 year deal when he first became RFA. That 3 year deal crewed his earning potential for his mid 30's (I bet Tre tried lowballing him with some sort of 5 year deal at $6M or something). So now, instead of signing a massive deal at the age of 29, he had to settle for a massive deal at age 25.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I’d bet that close to zero posters here would turn down the opportunity to be a multi-millionaire in South Florida, even if it meant slightly screwing over our old employer in the process. I’ve lived in Calgary for 50 years and would move out of this Arctic wasteland in an instant if I could afford to.

Come on now, Tkachuk could have played it about 50 different ways worse than how it actually went down. We ended up getting a haul despite not having much, if any, leverage.

Florida can be a pretty wild place. I would not choose to live in a US city like that, even if it meant making 20% more. I would never choose to live in a place where you need to carry a gun and/or live in a gated community for your own security. Or a place where huge parts of the population do not have access to adequate health care, education or even food. Call me a socialist, but if you're sick, you should be able to see a doctor, regardless of whether you are poor or rich.

[EN FUEGO]

Originally Posted by blankall

Florida can be a pretty wild place. I would not choose to live in a US city like that, even if it meant making 20% more. I would never choose to live in a place where you need to carry a gun and/or live in a gated community for your own security. Or a place where huge parts of the population do not have access to adequate health care, education or even food. Call me a socialist, but if you're sick, you should be able to see a doctor, regardless of whether you are poor or rich.

Careful....they might not let you over the border these days after using the "s" word...not that you'd want to come down here right now. I live in the most expensive state in the country, but also in one of the poorest counties within that state. Most of the well off folks here in California are the ones who want to help the poor people, but it's the paycheck to paycheck (at best) folks up here in the hills who "don't want no gobmint handouts for nobody". Weird times. As far as Florida goes....you could not pay me any sum of money to live there.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Redrum

These guys? No. The point stands though.

No, it actually doesn't

[EN FUEGO]

Originally Posted by btimbit

No, it actually doesn't

The same folks who present the false choice of "you can either stand for women's sports or trans people" often take serious issue with "you can either stand for the teachings of Jesus or a greedy, gluttonous, adulterous, mean-spirited bully/$75 bible salesman convicted of 34 felonies who places gold objects all over the Whitehouse while attacking the weakest/poorest members of society". Strange times.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by traptor

How many superstar RFAs force their way out from their drafted team?
There's lots of highly skilled young players in all types of markets. Calgary wasn't even a bad one.


He fully applied the leverage he had within the rules, but it was an unloyal selfish move and I dont understand why any Flames fan would continue to support him.


Not even mentioning the apparent politics he supports.



And someone mentioned Tre. Yes Tre greatly mismanaged both our stars and that summer. Two things can be true at once.

I was pretty sour at him when he left. However, since he was a big part of denying the Oilers two Stanley Cups and really rubbed it in both times, I have learned to look past the way he left the Flames.

If he is still on the Flames, the Oilers may have won the Stanley Cup. This is the timeline we had to go down to prevent that.

[Locke]

Ultimately this is all Johnny Knoxville's fault for starring in that Academy Award Acclaimed Documentary 'The Ringer' that has skewed people's perceptions of athletics.

The bane of our times.

[OminousFlames]

I figured more people were pissed about Johnny leaving than Tkachuk. At Least Matthew gave the team warning that he wasn't going to stay, where Johnny left the Flames hanging till the last moment and ditched.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by OminousFlames

I figured more people were pissed about Johnny leaving than Tkachuk. At Least Matthew gave the team warning that he wasn't going to stay, where Johnny left the Flames hanging till the last moment and ditched.

I don't see Tkachuk giving the team warning, unless he knew Gaudreau was already gone. Tkachuk knew that without Gaudreau on the team, there was a good chance his own numbers would fall and he would get far less money in his next contract negotiation.

People call it a "warning". It was also Tkachuk forcing a trade to put himself in the best economic position he could. The timing with his contract just happened to work out so that the Flames could get value for him. If Tkachuk's contract was expiring the same year as Gaudreau's he would have pulled the same move.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by blankall

I don't see Tkachuk giving the team warning, unless he knew Gaudreau was already gone. Tkachuk knew that without Gaudreau on the team, there was a good chance his own numbers would fall and he would get far less money in his next contract negotiation.

People call it a "warning". It was also Tkachuk forcing a trade to put himself in the best economic position he could. The timing with his contract just happened to work out so that the Flames could get value for him. If Tkachuk's contract was expiring the same year as Gaudreau's he would have pulled the same move.

I have no info to back this up but i don't think Johnny leaving had anything to do with Tkachuk leaving. He was going to leave regardless. If Johnny re-signed I think Tkachuk still goes.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I have no info to back this up but i don't think Johnny leaving had anything to do with Tkachuk leaving. He was going to leave regardless. If Johnny re-signed I think Tkachuk still goes.

Fair enough. My point still stands, that him giving the Flames a year's notice, still had a lot to do with cashing in on his own stats from that year. At that point Tkachuk had one season at above 80 points. No better time to look around for suitors.

[OminousFlames]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I have no info to back this up but i don't think Johnny leaving had anything to do with Tkachuk leaving. He was going to leave regardless. If Johnny re-signed I think Tkachuk still goes.

I assume you think he decided to move the moment he signed a bridge deal?
He was on one of the most productive lines in the NHL that season. Did he show signs of not liking Calgary at some point? His brother seems fine playing in Canada still.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I have no info to back this up but i don't think Johnny leaving had anything to do with Tkachuk leaving. He was going to leave regardless. If Johnny re-signed I think Tkachuk still goes.

If Gaudreau stays Flames likely don't have $10.5M for Tkachuk, so then he leaves because he says Flames can't afford him.

Gaudreau was just the excuse to leave when Calgary could offer him the most money after Gaudreau left

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by btimbit

No, it actually doesn't

It does. Your post kind of proves that at least a little.