Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Johnny Makarov]

Tone effing deaf deplorables! Pierre and his body double Lantsman hahaha

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

At SAIT the International Students just pay the regular health and dental plan that domestic students have. Which covers their cost of prescriptions and of course dental procedures.
They are already covered under AB health when they arrive.

I'm genuinely surprised to see that it changed. I didn't check Alberta, but did check here and it appears to be the same.

In NS it's not as simple as the moment you arrive, assuming Alberta is the same, but it's darn near close.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Part of the reason why the federal government has decided to scale back international student permits is because of the added pressure on health care:


https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...-for-2024.html

I had hoped your receipt was longer than a vague hand wavy statement in a news release. Got anything form CVS?

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Slava

Most of those students have to have private insurance.

Whether they have public or private insurance is probably less important than the fact that the already stressed health care system can’t pivot on a dime to handle significantly more patients.

To be clear, blaming health care system problems on immigration is a convenient excuse, even if they exacerbate the problem by sheer numbers.

[Wormius]

As stated already, students aren’t that likely to burden the health care system significantly. If anybody is so ill that they’re taking up a bed, they’ll probably have to withdraw from school which essentially means they won’t be a problem in the near future.

[chemgear]

Interesting timing. Auditor General to probe the international program. Can't hurt.

Sounds like everyone is admitting the levels are unsustainable.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11297075/...audit-planned/


Canada’s international student program to face auditor general probe

The federal auditor general is planning to conduct a review of Canada’s international student program, which has seen a surge in admissions that critics say the country was ill-prepared to handle.

Prime Minister Mark Carney told his cabinet ministers in a mandate letter shortly after the federal election that he wants to return “overall immigration rates to sustainable levels.”

[TheIronMaiden]

Immigration, historically, has been a net positive for Canada.
Nevertheless, I am glad that they are having a close look what is the best short/long term plan.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Immigration, historically, has been a net positive for Canada.
.

5 yr old Immigrant UCB approves this message

[Locke]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

5 yr old Immigrant UCB approves this message

Comin' in here....takin' our jerbs!!!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Locke

Comin' in here....takin' our jerbs!!!

I got an Uber driver last winter in Toronto.

"You are an undercover immigrant. You look and sound Canadian"


and joining your military

[Locke]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I got an Uber driver last winter in Toronto.

"You are an undercover immigrant. You look and sound Canadian"


and joining your military

See! See?!? If you were Genuine you'd have called it 'our' military!!

Get 'im!!!!

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I had hoped your receipt was longer than a vague hand wavy statement in a news release. Got anything form CVS?

Feel free to write to the Minister's responsible asking for details to backup their claim.

[chemgear]

Apparently out on bail when he went back to stealing and killing. Was dancing and rapping on social media after the murder. Wild.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/artic...toronto-plaza/

Toronto police say a 14-year-old boy has been charged with second-degree murder after a woman in her 70s was fatally stabbed late last week in North York.

Investigators say the victim, identified as 71-year-old Toronto resident Shahnaz Pestonji, was attacked in a parking lot while loading groceries into her vehicle.

Mendelson said investigators took the “fairly rare” step of seeking a provincial court order to release the teen’s identity and photograph, which he noted was from Toronto police - meaning that they’d had some sort of previous interaction with him.

He also pointed to the fact that the accused had allegedly taken to social media to post some of his “thoughts and excuses” online, which Mendelson said could have had a “component in locating him.” He also noted that police had said that the teen was known to frequent the TTC.

Lewis added that he finds it “chilling” that the accused is being referred to as a “boy.”

“This is a 14-year-old who is talking so kind of nonchalant about killing someone. you know. He talks about why he was there, what happened, and said, you know, didn’t really intend on killing her, but so be it,” the expert said, adding that the most jail time the accused could face, as a young offender, is 10 years.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Apparently out on bail when he went back to stealing and killing. Was dancing and rapping on social media after the murder. Wild.

You have the weirdest thing for what I can only describe as despair porn, you must consume more stories about murder, death, and violence than anyone here based on how much you share. What does this have to do with Canadian politics?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You have the weirdest thing for what I can only describe as despair porn, you must consume more stories about murder, death, and violence than anyone here based on how much you share. What does this have to do with Canadian politics?

/shrug I guess I'm with the Provincial Premiers being concerned with the crime affecting Canadians, how our justice system handles criminals and their bail. I mean, they literally got together to push the Federal government to make major changes just a few years ago.

It been an issue enough that the Liberal government had to admit their issues and make some initial token adjustments in 2024 I believe. That being said, the Provinces are still asking for further bail reforms this year still in the face of ongoing examples of criminals reoffending after being released over and over again.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pre...arms-1.6714245

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sj...scc/index.html

https://globalnews.ca/video/11282326...il-reform-laws
https://www.biv.com/news/economy-law...n-sim-10258614
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...on-bail-reform
https://www.surreynowleader.com/loca...enders-8040457

[Cappy]

Don't you get it, Pepsi, crime is massive. The news says so

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...deer-1.7591475

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Apparently out on bail when he went back to stealing and killing. Was dancing and rapping on social media after the murder. Wild.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/artic...toronto-plaza/

Toronto police say a 14-year-old boy has been charged with second-degree murder after a woman in her 70s was fatally stabbed late last week in North York.

Investigators say the victim, identified as 71-year-old Toronto resident Shahnaz Pestonji, was attacked in a parking lot while loading groceries into her vehicle.

Mendelson said investigators took the “fairly rare” step of seeking a provincial court order to release the teen’s identity and photograph, which he noted was from Toronto police - meaning that they’d had some sort of previous interaction with him.

He also pointed to the fact that the accused had allegedly taken to social media to post some of his “thoughts and excuses” online, which Mendelson said could have had a “component in locating him.” He also noted that police had said that the teen was known to frequent the TTC.

Lewis added that he finds it “chilling” that the accused is being referred to as a “boy.”

“This is a 14-year-old who is talking so kind of nonchalant about killing someone. you know. He talks about why he was there, what happened, and said, you know, didn’t really intend on killing her, but so be it,” the expert said, adding that the most jail time the accused could face, as a young offender, is 10 years.

Where does it say he was out on bail?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by chemgear

/shrug I guess I'm with the Provincial Premiers being concerned with the crime affecting Canadians, how our justice system handles criminals and their bail. I mean, they literally got together to push the Federal government to make major changes just a few years ago.

It been an issue enough that the Liberal government had to admit their issues and make some initial token adjustments in 2024 I believe. That being said, the Provinces are still asking for further bail reforms this year still in the face of ongoing examples of criminals reoffending after being released over and over

OK, so tell me how this particular story relates, since you didn’t actually make any comment about how it does. Your position is that bail shouldn’t exist so the very fact that he was out on bail is the fault of the Liberals? or something? Walk me through it.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Don't you get it, Pepsi, crime is massive. The news says so

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...deer-1.7591475

Look, as someone who generally agrees with you guys, you lot need to tone down the f-cking smug once in a while, especially when you clearly haven't read your own article. Violent crime ('Violent Criminal Code violations') still remains near its peak.

The StatsCan data shows crime rates (measured in terms of incidents per 100,000 people) are generally down across most types of offences in Calgary.

But the rate of violent crime, while down from 2023, remains significantly higher than it was at its low point in 2013.

Or what, do you think people give a crap about property crime? Yeah, that's what gets people incensed.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Look, as someone who generally agrees with you guys, you lot need to tone down the f-cking smug once in a while, especially when you clearly haven't read your own article. Violent crime ('Violent Criminal Code violations') still remains near its peak.Or what, do you think people give a crap about property crime? Yeah, that's what gets people incensed.

Well, he was allegedly on bail from stealing cars, which is not a violent crime, and since bail is being held as the issue here, maybe you want to tone down the smug and actually read what’s being discussed?

The youth crime rate has also trended down for most of the last two decades, FYI.