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Old 07-16-2025, 01:56 PM   #5161
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I think McTavish has recently become expendable with Carlsson leveling up, Strome signed for 2 more at a good dollar, and significant C prospects in Sennecke and McQueen recently drafted (Sennecke likely to try and grab that 3c role as early as this year).

I assume they don't want to commit to a big deal with MacT where their could soon be a significant logjam at the position. It is really too bad if Rasmus won't re-up in a place like Anaheim cause it seems like such a incredible trading partner for Calgary. Trouba and Gudas are off the books this year for a combined 12M cap clearance. A 29 Y/O Andersson could jump in at the dollar value Trouba currently holds and lead that young defence core. A 1 for 1 with McTavish would be a sweet piece of business. I can't see big interest in Zary with the recent acquisitions of Granlund and Kreider.
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lol. Can't believe some of you guys think we could get Robertson for Rasmus.

We would be posting the start the car Ikea gif for a decade. hahahahaha
Its a 'has to happen this weekend to make sense' situation.
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Old 07-16-2025, 02:08 PM   #5163
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I think McTavish could get a dman that hasn’t been floating in the rumour mill. The only D options aren’t Byram and Andersson and weren’t you banging the drum that unexpected players get traded all the time. Like I said though, it’s a moot point as it sure doesn’t work when McTavish needs to be signed right away.
The point is that you are replying to a specific statement with false generalizations that you are making zero effort to prove.

"There must be another option out there". The consensus is that your statement is false.

Go ahead and walk through the list of RD and find one that you think might be up for grabs that fits the criteria. A good starting point would be to look at the top 64 D man in that fan vote. Most of the young high end RD are unlikely to be available won't be traded for McTavish because they are on young rebuilding teams that already have C depth.

For example, Red Wings wouldn't trade Seider to the Ducks because they have Kasper, Danielson, etc. and have no need for McTavish but they have a lot of need for Seider as he is a rare RHS D.

As a Flames fan you should be happy that this is true because it inflates Andersson's value beyond what he would be able to fetch in a normal situation.
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I'm going to need a gif of the Rasmus stare while 'Go Your Own Way' plays if Connie is Stevie singing 'Dreams'

Jokes aside, would love to see a three way...trade
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I think McTavish has recently become expendable with Carlsson leveling up, Strome signed for 2 more at a good dollar, and significant C prospects in Sennecke and McQueen recently drafted (Sennecke likely to try and grab that 3c role as early as this year).

I assume they don't want to commit to a big deal with MacT where their could soon be a significant logjam at the position. It is really too bad if Rasmus won't re-up in a place like Anaheim cause it seems like such a incredible trading partner for Calgary. Trouba and Gudas are off the books this year for a combined 12M cap clearance. A 29 Y/O Andersson could jump in at the dollar value Trouba currently holds and lead that young defence core. A 1 for 1 with McTavish would be a sweet piece of business. I can't see big interest in Zary with the recent acquisitions of Granlund and Kreider.
I thought Sennecke was an RW. Did he play centre last year? It would be quite the jump to 3rd line C in the NHL if he has little experience playing the position at lower levels.
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I think McTavish has recently become expendable with Carlsson leveling up, Strome signed for 2 more at a good dollar, and significant C prospects in Sennecke and McQueen recently drafted (Sennecke likely to try and grab that 3c role as early as this year).

You don't trade Mason McTavish because you have Ryan Strome.
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I thought Sennecke was an RW. Did he play centre last year? It would be quite the jump to 3rd line C in the NHL if he has little experience playing the position at lower levels.
Ah, the profile I was looking at has him C/RW but looks like he is primarily RW as you said.
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If the Flames can somehow get McTavish, do what it takes and get him. As for younger guys, Zellweger would be ideal. From Dallas, Bichsel and Bourque are who i like the most, I just don't think Robertson would do as well on the Flames.
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The point is that you are replying to a specific statement with false generalizations that you are making zero effort to prove.

"There must be another option out there". The consensus is that your statement is false.

Go ahead and walk through the list of RD and find one that you think might be up for grabs that fits the criteria. A good starting point would be to look at the top 64 D man in that fan vote. Most of the young high end RD are unlikely to be available won't be traded for McTavish because they are on young rebuilding teams that already have C depth.

For example, Red Wings wouldn't trade Seider to the Ducks because they have Kasper, Danielson, etc. and have no need for McTavish but they have a lot of need for Seider as he is a rare RHS D.

As a Flames fan you should be happy that this is true because it inflates Andersson's value beyond what he would be able to fetch in a normal situation.
McAvoy could be an option if the Bruins thought McTavish is a #1C or Reinbacher out of the Habs if they thought the same. Two quick examples off the top of my head. Anyways this argument is dumb because of the contract thing anyways. I’ll happily eat crow if Andersson gets Robertson, McTavish, or Johnston but I’m not holding my breath.
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Rasmus changed his profile picture on X. Shortly after all the gifs began.

My guess is people do this to claim they broke it if a trade happens. Educated guessing, based on the player doing this.
My guess, is that Ras actually checks into CP every now and then (not often though as he knows better) and changed his profile pictures across social media to have fun with us nerds despite it having nothing to do with any sort of decision he or Conroy has made.
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McAvoy could be an option if the Bruins thought McTavish is a #1C or Reinbacher out of the Habs if they thought the same. Two quick examples off the top of my head. Anyways this argument is dumb because of the contract thing anyways. I’ll happily eat crow if Andersson gets Robertson, McTavish, or Johnston but I’m not holding my breath.
The Habs don't need McTavish nor do I think they would trade Reinbacher and there is no way in hell you are getting McAvoy for him.
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lol. Can't believe some of you guys think we could get Robertson for Rasmus.

We would be posting the start the car Ikea gif for a decade. hahahahaha
Multiple posters said "do not want" to that proposed deal...that is the real lol
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I'm going to need a gif of the Rasmus stare while 'Go Your Own Way' plays if Connie is Stevie singing 'Dreams'

Jokes aside, would love to see a three way...trade
Either way, it's all just Rumours.
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Multiple posters said "do not want" to that proposed deal...that is the real lol
Obviously the value is there in a 1-for-1. The point is using your limited trade assets to secure more pressing needs now and into the future, not another winger at their near peak salary cost.

Sample size of everyone thinks Robertson is a more valuable piece than Andersson. But making that move and signing Robertson to a long term deal isn’t a direction I’m hoping to see from the Flames.
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Also incredible that none of you have thought to just create a “LEGIT rumours ONLY” thread to solve your problem instead of complaining about this one all the time. Practice some problem solving little buddies.
If this happened, someone would ask the always important question about why a new thread was needed and if it was really necessary.
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Obviously the value is there in a 1-for-1. The point is using your limited trade assets to secure more pressing needs now and into the future, not another winger at their near peak salary cost.

Sample size of everyone thinks Robertson is a more valuable piece than Andersson. But making that move and signing Robertson to a long term deal isn’t a direction I’m hoping to see from the Flames.
The Flames were the 6th worst team at scoring goals last season. That's why generating offense seems like a pretty pressing need. Both now and into the future. Robertson is what? 25? So he'll play at a pretty high level for the next 8 years. Unless he turns into a pumpkin in CGY that would be a pretty fair contract. The best part is that he's still a RFA at the end of the season, so you can watch him play before making a commitment.

I just don't see the Flames ever landing that caliber of player as an UFA, not in a 32 team league with the salary cap significantly increasing each year.

Finally, developing skilled offensive Cs would be easier with a guy like Robertson on their wing than with a guy like Coleman.
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Obviously the value is there in a 1-for-1. The point is using your limited trade assets to secure more pressing needs now and into the future, not another winger at their near peak salary cost.

Sample size of everyone thinks Robertson is a more valuable piece than Andersson. But making that move and signing Robertson to a long term deal isn’t a direction I’m hoping to see from the Flames.
Why? How is he not a pressing need? He’d also be RFA at the end of his deal.
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^^ I think he's talking about the need for a rop C. But (a) Andersson isn't getting you one and the teams that want him probably don't have high draft picks to sell (and if they did they are lottery proof. So if you can't get the C you get the best return available regardless of position, especially looking at the Flames offence, like others have said.

Robertson isn't a perfect player and he's not a PO stud (though his PO performance is overly criticized IMO). But he's a career PPG guy who has cracked 100 before. And Dallas probably feels like he's expendable salary since they were a top offensive team and then added Rantanen.
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Robertson is a bad idea for a number of reasons first and foremost being our prospects can look at our depth chart like anyone else.

We currently have huby, sharky,scoronato, coleman locked up long term. Klapka is two years but expect we will be looking to extend before his two years are up. Lomberg and pospisil.
Bringing in another winger means we have 5 of 8 positions lockedup long term.
At some point( as soon as this year probably) some of our myriad of lw prospects going to go where exactly am i going to play on this team? And start demanding out.

He is at the top of stated age range, a winger, and we would be using the last of our high value assets to get another winger? Doesnt make sense to me and i dont see him as some kind of exceptional player not much difference from peterka.

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Robertson is a bad idea for a number of reasons first and foremost being our prospects can look at our depth chart like anyone else.

We currently have huby, sharky,scoronato, coleman locked up long term. Klapka is two years but expect we will be looking to extend before his two years are up. Lomberg and pospisil.
Bringing in another winger means we have 5 of 8 positions lockedup long term.
At some point( as soon as this year probably) some of our myriad of lw prospects going to go where exactly am i going to play on this team? And start demanding out.

He is at the top of stated age range, a winger, and we would be using the last of our high value assets to get another winger? Doesnt make sense to meand i dont see him as some kind of exceptional player not myluch difference from peterka.
Counterpoint: he scores boatloads of goals and we suck at scoring goals.
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