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Old 07-16-2025, 11:16 AM   #181
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he's a poet in his own mind only, and he generally comes off as a self-important wiener, but he's just as much a patriot as don cherry.
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Old 07-16-2025, 11:24 AM   #182
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Sometimes I think we need to spend more time presenting what we think and less time telling others how they should think when it comes to tough issues.

There is a pile of real estate between;

a) having some fond memories of Don Cherry during some 80s Flames playoff drives and thinking a network that milked his controversial takes maybe doing better in how they ended his show.

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b) rubber stamping approval for every single thing the man ever said.

It was time. He was becoming more and more dated in his views and had to go. It could have been handled in a more humane manor. His buddy probably could have done better in how he threw him to the wolves. His buddy made things worse with his silly quotes last week.
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Canucks fans tend to absolutely hate Ron. Hell the entire Canucks organization wouldn't do a CBC/Sportsbet hit involving Ron for close to ten years.
did he pick the bruins or something?
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did he pick the bruins or something?
The Auger thing.


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Sometimes I think we need to spend more time presenting what we think and less time telling others how they should think when it comes to tough issues.

There is a pile of real estate between;

a) having some fond memories of Don Cherry during some 80s Flames playoff drives and thinking a network that milked his controversial takes maybe doing better in how they ended his show.

and

b) rubber stamping approval for every single thing the man ever said.

It was time. He was becoming more and more dated in his views and had to go. It could have been handled in a more humane manor. His buddy probably could have done better in how he threw him the wolves. His buddy made things worse with his silly quotes last week.
Agreed, although it does sound like a couple posters such as goriders might fall into category b...

Don is a poster boy for how a contingent of multi generational Canadians think, unfortunately. And they see nothing wrong with the guy in general, including how he presented some of his takes on the program.
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Old 07-16-2025, 01:04 PM   #186
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I suspect Ron has major narcissistic traits, but that is not really unusual in sports, media, entertainment and politics.
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I suspect Ron has major narcissistic traits, but that is not really unusual in sports, media, entertainment and politics.
Perhaps but the best folks in media, that I've dealt with, are the ones that had low ego and a ton of humility, recognizing that they are only as good as their last broadcast, and their success comes form the hard work of many others.

Peter Maher was the GOAT, but never took any credit for himself or demanded the spotlight.

It's a fine line. To succeed in that business you have to have some confidence, otherwise your own insecurities will eat you up. But it can tip over to being ego-centric very easily.
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Perhaps but the best folks in media, that I've dealt with, are the ones that had low ego and a ton of humility, recognizing that they are only as good as their last broadcast, and their success comes form the hard work of many others.

Peter Maher was the GOAT, but never took any credit for himself or demanded the spotlight.

It's a fine line. To succeed in that business you have to have some confidence, otherwise your own insecurities will eat you up. But it can tip over to being ego-centric very easily.
I was going to mention how this is likely a good reason why I tend to lean towards having former players as pundits as they already have their own career achievements and usually don't feel the need to inflate their ego by being a media personality, but then too many exceptions to that rule come to mind. The biggest example being Luke Gazdic.
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Perhaps but the best folks in media, that I've dealt with, are the ones that had low ego and a ton of humility, recognizing that they are only as good as their last broadcast, and their success comes form the hard work of many others.

Peter Maher was the GOAT, but never took any credit for himself or demanded the spotlight.

It's a fine line. To succeed in that business you have to have some confidence, otherwise your own insecurities will eat you up. But it can tip over to being ego-centric very easily.
Exactly. Duhatschek, Whalen, Maher, Johnson, Leslie, and even Hrudey.

Not necessarily, a contrast to Troutman's point, with the 'but' Jiri, as I think we can all agree, one of Maclean's most detrimental characteristics is his often found, lack of humility.
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I was going to mention how this is likely a good reason why I tend to lean towards having former players as pundits as they already have their own career achievements and usually don't feel the need to inflate their ego by being a media personality, but then too many exceptions to that rule come to mind. The biggest example being Luke Gazdic.
Gazdic posted something like 8 points in 150 games. Basically a scrub in the NHL.

But he talks like he was an integral part of the oilers for a long time and every ones best friend and confidant.

Dont get me wrong, he has the capacity to be a likable on air personality but he squanders that with his personal investment in the oilers, which came to the surface with his Canucks meltdown where he identified as being one with the oilers with "us" statements and his constant referrals to oilers players by their first names.

The end product is cringe and embarrassing.
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Exactly. Duhatschek, Whalen, Maher, Johnson, Leslie, and even Hrudey.

Not necessarily, a contrast to Troutman's point, with the 'but' Jiri, as I think we can all agree, one of Maclean's most detrimental characteristics is his often found, lack of humility.
Not sure about Hrudey. Saw him pull “don’t you know who I am?” at a sushi restaurant years ago.
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Not sure about Hrudey. Saw him pull “don’t you know who I am?” at a sushi restaurant years ago.
And Ed Whalen was a friendly guy, but he didn’t exactly shy away from being the centre of attention.

The print guys like Duhatschek tend to be more self-effacing because it’s a very different vocation from being an on-air personality. You can see the different personality types right from the outset in journalism school.
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Not sure about Hrudey. Saw him pull “don’t you know who I am?” at a sushi restaurant years ago.
My buddy saw the same thing with Iggy
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My buddy saw the same thing with Iggy
Young Iggy and mature Iggy were different though. Saw young Iggy at the old Cowboys downtown a few times and he was a typical athlete bro. Older Iggy seemed pretty laid back and down to earth.
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Young Iggy and mature Iggy were different though. Saw young Iggy at the old Cowboys downtown a few times and he was a typical athlete bro. Older Iggy seemed pretty laid back and down to earth.
I'm not sure the exact age but he was building a home in Kelowna & Calgary at the time, so mid Iggy?
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I'm not sure the exact age but he was building a home in Kelowna & Calgary at the time, so mid Iggy?
Mature Iggy anyway. But I guess everyone has bad days.
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Not sure about Hrudey. Saw him pull “don’t you know who I am?” at a sushi restaurant years ago.
He’s an Oilers shill, that’s who he is.
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Just remembered an Ed Whalen story.

I was a young waiter serving him at a banquet. When I put his prime rib in front of him, he exclaimed “I can’t eat this - it’s far too rare!”

One of the other people at the table said it’s prime rib Ed, it’s supposed to be rare. Whalen said that was easy for him to say, his was closer to medium-rare. I asked the other guy if he thought Ed’s prime rib looked okay, and he said yes. So I swapped their plates.

Whalen’s jaw dropped open. But everyone else at the table had a good laugh, and so he went along with it.

When I told my manager, she said “you did WHAT?” I was 18 and didn’t know any better.
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