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Old 07-14-2025, 10:59 AM   #61
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I like Gare Joyce a lot. Surprised he didn't get some comment from Cherry if he was going to run this piece
Gare Joyce is more than familiar with Cherry and probably wasn't interested in asking him about anything. They have a history going back to the mid 90s

https://garejoyce2022.substack.com/p...-pulpit-advice

Good on him for calling this out long before anyone else was doing it.
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I always found Cherry's Euro-player prejudice hilarious.

"Y-all ain't white enough!"

Well I guess that's what people thought of Italians and Greeks back in the day.

Both need to be launched into the sun.
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Old 07-14-2025, 11:03 AM   #63
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as much as both Cherry and MacLean suck, Joe Warmington sucks even more
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I always found Cherry's Euro-player prejudice hilarious.

"Y-all ain't white enough!"

Well I guess that's what people thought of Italians and Greeks back in the day.

Both need to be launched into the sun.
He was talking mainly about Swedes/Fins/Russians. I don't think the racial obsession works on this one.
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Cherry being in the hall of fame is laughable.
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Old 07-14-2025, 11:10 AM   #66
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Who cares about either of these old fcukers

Also, we all knew Ron was an idiot in the summer of 2015

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/...old-prediction

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Old 07-14-2025, 11:14 AM   #67
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Cherry being in the hall of fame is laughable.
I find The Hall of Fame itself is pretty laughable so this wouldnt really change my opinion. I really couldnt care less either way.
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He was talking mainly about Swedes/Fins/Russians. I don't think the racial obsession works on this one.
My impression is that he considers the best hockey players to be NA-white, and that the Euro-whites don't measure up.

But please, as a visible minority myself, do tell me how racism works.
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Who cares about either of these old fcukers

Also, we all knew Ron was an idiot in the summer of 2015

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/...old-prediction

He wasn't too far off of it being Taylor Hall's year. He got out of Edmonton at the end of the season.

Eberle the summer after that.
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Ron smack-talking and disclosing someone's health is pretty low. And pneumonia really? That's not even remotely a reason to quit your job. "Hey I have pneumonia and need to strategically plan my exit." Huh?
When you're over 90, getting pneumonia can often be the beginning of the end.

I've heard of a lot of elderly people who go to the hospital with pneumonia, or go into the hospital for something else and catch pneumonia while they're there and they don't go home again.
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My impression is that he considers the best hockey players to be NA-white, and that the Euro-whites don't measure up.

But please, as a visible minority myself, do tell me how racism works.
Why would you want to dilute the word then? Doesn't really seem like the time to use it.
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To add insult to injury, didn't Ronald also show up last year uninvited to Don's birthday and do a forced photo op at the table with him and his family for his social media?

If 'Oileresque' could be a personality, he's got it.
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So I should delete my photo of my wife and me with Ron McLean when we met him eight years ago.
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When you're over 90, getting pneumonia can often be the beginning of the end.

I've heard of a lot of elderly people who go to the hospital with pneumonia, or go into the hospital for something else and catch pneumonia while they're there and they don't go home again.
True, but it's also something you can get over just fine. Don Cherry lived through his incredible battle with pneumonia, and is still here.
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When you're over 90, getting pneumonia can often be the beginning of the end.

I've heard of a lot of elderly people who go to the hospital with pneumonia, or go into the hospital for something else and catch pneumonia while they're there and they don't go home again.
Not even over 90, but yeah, its a thing. My FIL has had Pneumonia more times than I can remember. One time he was sanding his deck, got a sliver in his leg and it got infected, went to the Hospital and boom! Double Pneumonia. Happens all the time.

Either way, in the context of this article, nobody is arguing that Grapes is some sort of Saint despite being voted '7th Greatest Canadian' on CBC by viewers in 2004, but thats not really the point.

Yeah...he's an old dude, he has some really antiquated opinions (except about the French, those are still valid) but it doesnt change the fact that Ron is a POS who stabbed him in the back.

As for Mrs. Cherry who will not allow MacLean in her home? You stand strong Mrs. Cherry! Thats a Grudge worth holding.
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To add insult to injury, didn't Ronald also show up last year uninvited to Don's birthday and do a forced photo op at the table with him and his family for his social media?

If 'Oileresque' could be a personality, he's got it.
Ronald was rocking skinny jeans last summer and going shirtless.
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I used to love Ron McLean. I thought he was witty and a bit quirky.
Then I read his book about 15 years ago and it totally turned me off of him. He sounded too cocky, hanger-on, he thought he was the best skater around. He thought he was such an insider.
Now he is way to biased towards certain teams and players and his once funny quips are approaching cringe worthy (not as bad as that curly haired Edm. fellow though)
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Why would you want to dilute the word then? Doesn't really seem like the time to use it.

What word is being diluted by your standards?

Are you implying that the word "racism" or "racist" should only be used in certain circumstances?

And please explain what "racial obsession" means.
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Old 07-14-2025, 11:40 AM   #79
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Ron and Don are a great example of a situation where neither are worth defending, both trash. The only difference is that Don is sitting where both of them should’ve been years ago.
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I used to love Ron McLean. I thought he was witty and a bit quirky.
Then I read his book about 15 years ago and it totally turned me off of him. He sounded too cocky, hanger-on, he thought he was the best skater around. He thought he was such an insider.
Now he is way to biased towards certain teams and players and his once funny quips are approaching cringe worthy (not as bad as that curly haired Edm. fellow though)
Yeah reading his book was a real eye opener for me as well.
Which is so weird. I don't know where I've ever read an autobiography and have it give me so much more of a negative view of a person.
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