[Signing] Panthers re-sign Bennett (8 yrs, $8 mil AAV)

[dino7c]

IDK there was some luck involved even for the Panthers...Sam was on the market for months its not like they were falling all over themselves to get him.

They made a modest offer, higher than anyone else but if they had any idea them or any other organization for that matter would have paid a first or something the day he was available to make sure nobody else got him. The Panthers offer could have very easily been beaten.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Certainly an interesting read when he re-signed in Florida for just over $4mil AAV for 4 years. He's certainly proved a lot of people in the hockey world wrong in the last few years.

So many bad takes. The Flames ####ed up his development. If you pick him at #4 you should follow through on your commitment.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

IDK there was some luck involved even for the Panthers...Sam was on the market for months its not like they were falling all over themselves to get him.

They made a modest offer, higher than anyone else but if they had any idea them or any other organization for that matter would have paid a first or something the day he was available to make sure nobody else got him. The Panthers offer could have very easily been beaten.

There's no question they got a good deal on Sam Bennett and Sam Reinhart. Sure there may be some luck involved but I don't think you're giving Florida enough credit. They got it right.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Saqe

So many bad takes. The Flames ####ed up his development. If you pick him at #4 you should follow through on your commitment.

Craig Conroy said that too he said they drafted him as a center and should have followed it through.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

And in 4-5 years when he's so battered and bruised he makes like Bolland?

Look, I get why he is signed, as Florida wants to do a 3-peat. But this will age exceptionally bad.

Zito knows it will age badly. But when you’re in Florida’s position, the next 3-4 years of your franchise matters way more than years 5-8.

The model in the NHL these days is for contenders to push all their chips in. It’s why all of the top contenders this season (besides Carolina) have traded away at least three of their 1st-round picks in a 4-year span. Banners fly forever, etc.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Zito knows it will age badly. But when you’re in Florida’s position, the next 3-4 years of your franchise matters way more than years 5-8.

The model in the NHL these days is for contenders to push all their chips in. It’s why all of the top contenders this season (besides Carolina) have traded away at least three of their 1st-round picks in a 4-year span. Banners fly forever, etc.

From what I've heard in some podcasts or youtube (can't remember exactly), Carolina (accurately) didn't really consider itself a serious contender.

I hope being level-headed like that pays off for them. I'm kind of frustrated by teams throwing away their chips in longshot attempts that only leads to them having no path to improvement besides a rebuild... which leads to the most exciting new players always wasting their first years propping up otherwise bad teams.

[Finger Cookin]

Craig Conway? Sam Reinhardt? What in the multiversere

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Craig Conway? Sam Reinhardt? What in the multiversere

Being a deaf person with arthritis in my hands I sometimes use talk to text. Will try to be better!

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Zito knows it will age badly. But when you’re in Florida’s position, the next 3-4 years of your franchise matters way more than years 5-8.

The model in the NHL these days is for contenders to push all their chips in. It’s why all of the top contenders this season (besides Carolina) have traded away at least three of their 1st-round picks in a 4-year span. Banners fly forever, etc.

At this point, Florida's goal is to try to cement their dynasty status and and win a couple more cups. Panther's prime window will be opened for at least 3 or 4 more years. If back half of Bennett's contract doesn't age well, I don't think Zito will be that worried. Hell, as a fan, I'd be ecstatic to be in Florida's position right now. Who cares how the contract ages once the team ages and becomes the next Chicago. They may have won 3-5 cups by then.

[868904]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

At this point, Florida's goal is to try to cement their dynasty status and and win a couple more cups. Panther's prime window will be opened for at least 3 or 4 more years. If back half of Bennett's contract doesn't age well, I don't think Zito will be that worried. Hell, as a fan, I'd be ecstatic to be in Florida's position right now. Who cares how the contract ages once the team ages and becomes the next Chicago. They may have won 3-5 cups by then.

I don’t think the Panthers even care about their dynasty, I think they just really hate the Oilers and want to deny them their “destiny”.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by 868904

I don’t think the Panthers even care about their dynasty, I think they just really hate the Oilers and want to deny them their “destiny”.

SN will reward Edmonton their dynasty even if(when) they never win a cup.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by D as in David

SN will reward Edmonton their dynasty even if(when) they never win a cup.

"Most playoff series wins in X number of years, without winning the cup! Greatest non-winners of all time!"

[blankall]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I don't think Florida is dragged by any one player...You could have given the MVP to 3 other guys at least without much of an argument.

Bennett earned the contract though its just funny a few months ago it was being scoffed at that a team like the Flames or Leafs ect. would come along and give Bennett and 8x8. (like we have the post history to prove it)

Now its a hometown discount in Florida...big playoff run earned some big money

Yup...wining a Conn Smyth will do that.

Good move by Bennett IMO too. He gets the extra year, and I don't see him being the type of guy who would have had a long career unfortunately. He gets a tax break from being in Florida.

He also stays in Florida, where's he's a hometown favorite, and avoids being a pariah in another city. If he'd signed for $10 million/year in Toronto and reverted back to being a 25 goal and 50 point player, the city of Toronto would have not been so kind to him.

Florida may actually struggle to repeat. They've done a great job of keeping their core together, but that core is getting more injured and a few key players are getting old. Specifically, Bobrovsky has been incredible in the playoffs for the last 4 years. He's turning 37 now though.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by blankall

Florida may actually struggle to repeat. They've done a great job of keeping their core together, but that core is getting more injured and a few key players are getting old. Specifically, Bobrovsky has been incredible in the playoffs for the last 4 years. He's turning 37 now though.

I think this upcoming season they will limit the minutes their core players play, and let their bottom 6 forwards, bottom D guys, and backup goalie play more than usual. Chucky may miss the early part of the season to fully heal up from his injuries.

I think they'll be fine as long as they do a good job with load management.

And age is not necessarily an impediment (to a point). Look at Perry for example.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

I think this upcoming season they will limit the minutes their core players play, and let their bottom 6 forwards, bottom D guys, and backup goalie play more than usual. Chucky may miss the early part of the season to fully heal up from his injuries.

I think they'll be fine as long as they do a good job with load management.

And age is not necessarily an impediment (to a point). Look at Perry for example.

The interesting thing about Florida was their attack, one night it was Brad Marchand, another night it was Sam Bennett, then another night it was Sam Reinhart. It seemed like it was by design. You couldn't focus on any one guy, and they still had other players who can burn you.

[CliffFletcher]

Luostarinen had 19 points in the playoffs. They come at you in waves.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Luostarinen had 19 points in the playoffs. They come at you in waves.

I thought waves were supposed to come at you in Hurricanes.

Southern hockey teams have such confusing names!

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

There's no question they got a good deal on Sam Bennett and Sam Reinhart. Sure there may be some luck involved but I don't think you're giving Florida enough credit. They got it right.

Yeah I think it’s what you actually do that counts. In another thread people are criticizing Conroy because he considered re-signing guys like Lindholm which is an equally bad take IMO.

Florida deserves a ton of credit for who they acquired. And Conroy to his credit makes no excuses for the Flames mishandling of Bennett.