2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Muta]

I'm not sure how this can't be a three-way, Toronto doesn't have the direct assets.

On a related note - If we move Kadri and somehow get Rossi out of this, I'd think that would be quite the shrewd maneuver here.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Rossi is still the wildcard to me too.

I feel like given the Flames interest in some guys who haven't signed and their own situation within the team we could see them trying to move parts to get everything done at the same time.

Direct replacements:

Rasmus out - Byram in
Kadri out - Rossi in

Futures obviously included in any sort of trade, and then other assets used for acquisition. Could be interesting.

**Personal speculation, nothing I've been told**

Hypothetically speaking, if it was just:

Rossi + Byram for Rasmus + Kadri

I would be happy with that. Fills needs, gets us younger and providers upside in consequential positions.


I do think Rasmus + Kadri should extract a bit more value then Rossi + Byram though.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He isn't moving if it isn't the Leafs. I am very confident in that.

Colorado?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

If the Flames are trading Kadri, they need to go scorched earth here and go after Mckenna. No chance they make playoffs without Kadri if he’s being traded for only futures and there’s no replacement of equal of better quality planned to replace him.

That means Andersson, Coleman, etc all need to go. Keep Huberdeau to hit cap floor and as a good mentor. Same with Weegs because he’s wicked.

We might as well trade for Skinner then. and only give Wolf 20 starts.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by indes

You would think Treliving would be making sure cap space is there in case McDavid comes knocking...

You know who should sign McDavid? Calgary.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by traptor

I'd do it.

Of course we would, we would be trading Kadri straight up for Rossi. We would probably need to add.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by rhino

Colorado?

I think it was said that he wants to live in Canada so he can be close to family

[Paulie Walnuts]

I would not be taking on Toronto's garbage to give BP his player eff that.

Scott Laughton a 4th line plugger is laughable.

They can start with 2028 1st round pick unprotected. BP usually likes to add additional picks so we as well get the entire 2028 picks.

[mile]

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[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by traptor

Hypothetically speaking, if it was just:

Rossi + Byram for Rasmus + Kadri

I would be happy with that. Fills needs, gets us younger and providers upside in consequential positions.


I do think Rasmus + Kadri should extract a bit more value then Rossi + Byram though.

I personally think we would need to add to get this done, but IMO this is a move that should make everyone happy as I think we can get it done without adding picks or prospects.

I would love to see the Flames tank, this type of move does not seem like a tank move, but I do see the 25/26 season as a year that trading Ras and Kadri for Rossi and Byram as a move that moves us down the standing's year 1. I think that we have a better chance of getting a top pick with Ras and Kadri gone, even with Byram and Rossi in. Especially if we part ways with winger depth to get these deals done.

Kadri and Ras have risky contracts (if they signed Ras) right when the Flames would want to compete, Rossi and Byram more than likely will play into their contracts and be value contracts at the right time.

I'm ok to add picks for Ras for now, I just don't see that being what Conroy does, so next best option is get younger and try and stay competitive, but at the same time put the team in a spot that they probably draft higher than we would with Ras and Kadri.

If the team stays in the middle, at least we did it without Kadri and Ras for a couple of 23-year-olds. Situation looks much better next off season with a much young team who is in the 90–96-point range.

[Royle9]

I was told Ehlers was down to 3 teams yesterday and was supposed to make his decision.
Sounds like WPG has circled back and he may just pull a Boeser.

Ehlers wants #1 winger playing time, not a lot of teams can offer that sadly. *Guaranteed time that is*

[devo22]

Originally Posted by traptor

Hypothetically speaking, if it was just:

Rossi + Byram for Rasmus + Kadri

I would be happy with that. Fills needs, gets us younger and providers upside in consequential positions.


I do think Rasmus + Kadri should extract a bit more value then Rossi + Byram though.

I'd be ecstatic with that. I think people would be surprised how good Rossi is already (also lost a whole year of development due to Covid/myocarditis, I think that context matters), and he still has room to grow. Hope he ends up being a Flame ... if the acquisition cost can be somewhat offset by moving Kadri, I'd be all for it.

complicated deals though, CC has his work cut out for him this offseason for sure.

[Jason14h]

Adding Rossi and Byram and paying them ~combined 15-16 million a season for Kadri and Rasmus seems like a perfect way to stay in the 10-8th range in the conference with little cap flexibility going forward

Seems exactly what the Flames will try to do

Hate it. You aren’t winning anything with Center depth of Rossi , Frost , whoever

I guess you could (in theory) flip these players instead of building around them as they have less trade protection and control.

But if the plan is to have a new core of Rossi , weegar , Huberdeau , Frost , Cornato , Shags , Bahl , and hopefully Parekh I’m not sure what to think other then it’s going to be a painful next 3 years waiting (hoping) our mid/low first and 2nd rounders develop into a proper core .

It would be the one of the most expensive no star lineup in NHL history !

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I was told Ehlers was down to 3 teams yesterday and was supposed to make his decision.
Sounds like WPG has circled back and he may just pull a Boeser.

Ehlers wants #1 winger playing time, not a lot of teams can offer that sadly. *Guaranteed time that is*

CJ said it was Carolina, Colorado and Washington making their big presentation.

Probably doing site visits as we speak.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Adding Rossi and Byram and paying them ~combined 15-16 million a season for Kadri and Rasmus seems like a perfect way to stay in the 10-8th range in the conference with little cap flexibility going forward

Seems exactly what the Flames will try to do

Hate it. You aren’t winning anything with Center depth of Rossi , Frost , whoever

I guess you could (in theory) flip these players instead of building around them as they have less trade protection and control.

But if the plan is to have a new core of Rossi , weegar , Huberdeau , Frost , Cornato , Shags , Bahl , and hopefully Parekh I’m not sure what to think other then it’s going to be a painful next 3 years waiting (hoping) our mid/low first and 2nd rounders develop into a proper core .

It would be the one of the most expensive no star lineup in NHL history !

Ugly lineup

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Adding Rossi and Byram and paying them ~combined 15-16 million a season for Kadri and Rasmus seems like a perfect way to stay in the 10-8th range in the conference with little cap flexibility going forward

Seems exactly what the Flames will try to do

Hate it. You aren’t winning anything with Center depth of Rossi , Frost , whoever

I guess you could (in theory) flip these players instead of building around them as they have less trade protection and control.

But if the plan is to have a new core of Rossi , weegar , Huberdeau , Frost , Cornato , Shags , Bahl , and hopefully Parekh I’m not sure what to think other then it’s going to be a painful next 3 years waiting (hoping) our mid/low first and 2nd rounders develop into a proper core .

It would be the one of the most expensive no star lineup in NHL history !

I think you would feel a pretty big initial hit swapping out Rasmus + Kadri for Byram + Rossi.


Adding Byram + Rossi doesn't impede the rebuild, it speeds it up. You get immediately worse but your betting on youth with upside.

I see it as a route to get worse for 2 years, then have a big swing up in years 3+.


Alternatively, if you sold Kadri + Rasmus for pure futures, I think you'll be scrapping bottom for 4+ years.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Adding Rossi and Byram and paying them ~combined 15-16 million a season for Kadri and Rasmus seems like a perfect way to stay in the 10-8th range in the conference with little cap flexibility going forward

Seems exactly what the Flames will try to do

Hate it. You aren’t winning anything with Center depth of Rossi , Frost , whoever

I guess you could (in theory) flip these players instead of building around them as they have less trade protection and control.

But if the plan is to have a new core of Rossi , weegar , Huberdeau , Frost , Cornato , Shags , Bahl , and hopefully Parekh I’m not sure what to think other then it’s going to be a painful next 3 years waiting (hoping) our mid/low first and 2nd rounders develop into a proper core .

It would be the one of the most expensive no star lineup in NHL history !

How can you guarantee this though? I show that the Flames will have $20 to 40 mil cap space each off season before Parekh's ELC is up. If you trade Ras and Kadri for Rossi and Byram, we would be trading $11.5 mil out. This is with signing Byram and Rossi to $8 mil each, it could be less.

Kadri was as good as any Flame last year. There are reasons why cup contenders want him, he's better now than most centers on cup contending teams. Losing him for Rossi and losing Ras for Byram makes this team worse in year 1 IMO. This team also was projected to be terrible going into the season and overachieved. Make these moves and who knows where we end up, but I just don't see how anyone can predict how it will go within a 5 point range and be so sure that they would put money on it.

2 23-year-olds, new team, new system, big contract often leads to bad 1st season too. I could see the team getting a top pick if they made these moves. Can't guarantee it like you can, but I think it could happen. Slow start, sell of Coleman and a few others at the deadline and you can get your top pick. It's not 100% out of the question.

[bluejays]

I'm 100% on board with dealing Kadri. Certainly he won't get Knies. Knies is almost untradeable on the team. Given his age and longer contract I'd be surprised if it's for much but if the 2028 1st is available that would be great. Leafs need some scrappyness and he fills that void.


I'd also much prefer Rossi to Byram. Byram isn't that prospect anymore. Sure he skates alright but bum headed moves are par for the course. Rossi has some potential, but I'd be just as inclined to deal him as he's more a 2nd liner.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'm not sure how this can't be a three-way, Toronto doesn't have the direct assets.

On a related note - If we move Kadri and somehow get Rossi out of this, I'd think that would be quite the shrewd maneuver here.

I don’t understand the attraction Rossi.

The movie Rudy came out in 1993.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I don’t understand the attraction Rossi.

The movie Rudy came out in 1993.

Yet his 60pts would put him 3rd on the Flames a team who can't seem to find the net very much.