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Old 06-27-2025, 10:28 AM   #2081
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These Robertson and Wyatt rumors make me think of the Mercer + 9th for Markstrom rumors last year.
You read my mind!! Lol
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:29 AM   #2082
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He's pretty good at hockey looking at wins above replacement for the top LWers....

Top 10 NHL Left Wings (2024–25) with Estimated WAR

Rank | Player | Team | Estimated WAR (Wins Above Replacement)
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1 | Kirill Kaprizov | Minnesota Wild | ~11
2 | Artemi Panarin | New York Rangers | ~10
3 | Jason Robertson | Dallas Stars | ~7.5
4 | Kyle Connor | Winnipeg Jets | ~6.5
5 | Brady Tkachuk | Ottawa Senators | ~6
6 | Filip Forsberg | Nashville Predators| ~5.5
7 | Jake Guentzel | Tampa Bay Lightning | ~5
8 | Matt Boldy | Minnesota Wild | ~5
9 | Brandon Hagel | Tampa Bay Lightning| ~4.5
10 | Alexander Ovechkin | Washington Capitals| ~4

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Old 06-27-2025, 10:30 AM   #2083
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Do not want Robertson. The guy isn't a winner, look at how bad is he every playoffs. His compete level is so low, but he has some natural talent.

We already took a guy like that in Huberdeau. This really stinks of another Huberdeau situation.
What are you talking about? He wasn't great in this years playoffs, but the previous two seasons he had 16 points in 19 games and 18 points in 19 games. Those are not shabby numbers. I would say you are way off base saying he is bad every playoffs.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:31 AM   #2084
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Johnston and Robertson seem unrealistic to me.

I'd still be interested in Mavrik Bourque as a part of a package for Andersson.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:31 AM   #2085
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These Robertson and Wyatt rumors make me think of the Mercer + 9th for Markstrom rumors last year.
Happens every year, that’s the fun of it. It almost always ends in disappointment, but it makes for an entertaining couple of days. Life is short. I’ll allow it. 😉
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Johnston and Robertson seem unrealistic to me.

I'd still be interested in Mavrik Bourque as a part of a package for Andersson.
There’s just not much else on Dallas that is realistically available and good.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:31 AM   #2087
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These rumours are terrible, none of them are true.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:32 AM   #2088
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Happens every year, that’s the fun of it. It almost always ends in disappointment, but it makes for an entertaining couple of days. Life is short. I’ll allow it. 😉
It’s mostly just annoying when people mope after the fact about it being a terrible trade lol.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:33 AM   #2089
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Probably true, but that should be the ask if Dallas is looking at Andersson.
You can ask, but Dallas is not trading Johnson, and certainly not for Andersson. That just makes their team weaker.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:34 AM   #2090
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It’s definitely the fun of it. Plus Bahl/1st is not as far off as Mercer/1st as some think. And certainly better than Holtz lol.
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It’s mostly just annoying when people mope after the fact about it being a terrible trade lol.
Hehe fair. That’s why I go outside and try to stay away after the hustle and bustle is over. This is the fun part!
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:35 AM   #2092
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[[*]Johnston is great, but I don't think he is as good as Misa (#20A pick) and he isn't an Eichel either.
Any team drafting Misa and he ends up as good as Johnston will be very happy.
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These rumours are terrible, none of them are true.
Are they even rumours or just made up on here?
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:36 AM   #2094
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Even as a pro rebuild guy I think when superstars come on the market you should go for them. Especially this team. Seems the league is just going to continue to expand to more and more markets, so more and more teams are just going to not have any stars. There aren't that many to go around, and Florida has had about 7 for the last 2 stanley cups. The number of stars you need to win a cup has been trending up.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:36 AM   #2095
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Are they even rumours or just made up on here?
"Rumours and Speculation Thread"
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I like Robertson partly because he isn't a burner. Speed is often the first thing to go when a player ages, so if you aren't relying on it to produce, it could be a sign that the player's production won't suffer as much when they get older. He just knows where to go and is shifty enough that he can sneak into scoring areas or create scoring chances when you don't expect them. His style doesn't seem to rely on a particular style of team play and he creates a lot from mundane cycling in the offensive zone and not fancy plays. I just think it's a very transferrable style and the results could be reproducible on another team. He also seems to have a really positive attitude.

I am not sure if it would be the right move for the Flames or not, but I think he would definitely help the team. It would all come down to acquisition cost obviously.
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Are they even rumours or just made up on here?
The latter. People are just putting the facts together, Dallas has made it clear Robertson could be available because he’s going to be too expensive, Calgary is likely to move Andersson, Calgary needs top end talent in a certain age range and Dallas needs a top 4 defender, and Andersson’s contract is super enticing, especially with retention, which could help Dallas pursue other moves.

It makes a lot of sense.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:40 AM   #2098
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Robertson is awesome, love to have him, but he's been bad in the playoffs. Not really sure we can deny that. Not to say he won't be better down the road, but I'd imagine that those performances are what is souring some people's view of him.
2023 playoffs - 19g, 18pts
2024 playoffs - 19g, 16pts
2205 playoffs - 11g, 6pts (injured)

is this bad in the playoffs, or just recency effect in full force?
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There are posters who complain about the owner, management, and individual players upwards of 10 times per day. I’m willing to be bold here and weather the disappointment of the maybe 2 fans who actually expect Johnston to be the return and are actively disappointed when it isn’t.

I think everyone should expect Johnston or Misa as part of the Andersson return. Go wild. Who cares.
An 28 year old dman, turning 29 in October, will be 30 when his new deal kicks in, Andersson also is coming of a season which is not great. For a 22 year old center, who might be a #1 center

If this was reversed, no chance the Flames who make this deal,

My guess, when the trade occurs, its likely similar to Lindholm.

Player, B level prospect, draft pick
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"Rumours and Speculation Thread"
Thanks. So no rumours, that’s what I was asking.
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