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Old 06-27-2025, 10:18 AM   #2061
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Dallas isn't trading Wyatt Johnston. Why is anyone even bringing his name up? He's untouchable as it gets.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:19 AM   #2062
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He's a secondary building block. You are not winning if he is the main guy up front.
Agreed. Dallas seems readily willing to part with Robertson, but sounds reluctant to deal Johnston, which is telling. Robertson is a good player, but has less ability to influence a shift than Johnston does and Dallas knows this 1st hand. If Dallas deals Johnston they’d have resources to re-up Robertson, but it appears they wisely place a greater value on Johnston.

As noted Robertson is good, but if the Flames move Andersson for Robertson the future is now given the age of the team’s top producers. Building is likely over, and the team is on the clock over the span of the next three years. I don’t see Robertson turning a multi-year non-playoff team into a contender.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:19 AM   #2063
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Thanks for this follow up Royle! That is awesome fuel to the fire while we wait for the draft later today.

Looking at the Stars, it makes sense that they go hard after Andersson because he is potentially the best RD available. Even if Ekblad is more talented and Dobson is younger, they are both going to need massive cap hits and Ekblad breaks easily. Andersson plays the whole season, even with a broken fibula. After the last season, durability must be on the mind of Stars management.

The Stars need to clear cap space and upgrade their #1RD. The Flames do not want a winger. Johnston is the answer.

If it could turn into a 3 way trade where the Flames flip Robertson into Misa then that is cool too, but I don't believe the Sharks would want Robertson more than Andersson.
Bet Chicago would love Robertson
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It’s worth asking why Dallas are balking at what Robertson’s next contract will look like, and are making him available. And why he didn’t make the US 4 Nations roster.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:20 AM   #2065
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Dallas isn't trading Wyatt Johnston. Why is anyone even bringing his name up? He's untouchable as it gets.
Probably true, but that should be the ask if Dallas is looking at Andersson.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:21 AM   #2066
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Parekh wheeling and dealing to a shooter like Robertson could be pure magic.

I don’t believe he’s truly available, but it’s certainly fun to envision.
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I wouldn't want to pay a huge package for Robertson, but if the cost is Andersson then you take that and run
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:21 AM   #2068
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Dallas isn't trading Wyatt Johnston. Why is anyone even bringing his name up? He's untouchable as it gets.
Because it’s fun. Why discuss anything? None of us are making the trades.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:22 AM   #2069
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I would doubt, Stars have had any discussion what's so ever for Johnston,

22 year old center, who has had two 30 goal seasons in a row are not easy to find.

They are not going to sign him to a long term contract then move him 1 month later.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:22 AM   #2070
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Do not want Robertson. The guy isn't a winner, look at how bad is he every playoffs. His compete level is so low, but he has some natural talent.

We already took a guy like that in Huberdeau. This really stinks of another Huberdeau situation.
He wasn't good this year no question, but in 2022-2023 he had 18 points in 19 games, in 2023-2024 he had 16 points in 19 games.

Not bad. And he was part of teams that went to the final four 3 times.

Stuff like "the guy isn't a winner" is so lame as a reason not to acquire really good players.
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A PP quarterbacked by Parekh with Coronato and Robertson playing on their off wings… imagine the one-timers… *drool*
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:24 AM   #2072
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Robertson is awesome, love to have him, but he's been bad in the playoffs. Not really sure we can deny that. Not to say he won't be better down the road, but I'd imagine that those performances are what is souring some people's view of him.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:24 AM   #2073
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Because it’s fun. Why discuss anything? None of us are making the trades.
Sure, discussing is great, big difference is expectations
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:24 AM   #2074
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Thanks so much for posting this! I know it broke a few brains and like 4 pages of garbage posting from people who can't get there but, man, what an amazing rumour.

This makes sense because Conroy hangs up the phone for pretty much everything else the Stars are offering. We are hunting for a C, not a winger, and not spare parts. We have the best RD on the market and the Stars in particular are unable to go after Ekblad or Dobson because of cap constraints.

If the Stars offer anything less than Johnston then the Flames hang up and go back to talking to CBJ (Sillinger + 14OA), the Mammoth, Bruins, Red Wings, etc. Basically all of those teams beat out the Stars offer until they get to Johnston. Nill says "Johnston" to Conroy and now the Stars are in the conversation.

Now it would come down to value.
  • Johnston is great, but I don't think he is as good as Misa (#20A pick) and he isn't an Eichel either.
  • The Flames have the leverage as we have a number of suitors and the Stars have no cap space to add a #1RD. I don't think the package needs to be as extreme as what it would take to get to Misa.
  • The Flames have cap space to eat some of the Stars other problems (Dumba and Lyubushkin) which would further reduce the need to add much on the Flames side beyond Andersson with retention.

I am going to have to think on this to see what is balanced enough to agree to without forgetting that we have one of the best assets on the Trade Board, who is also one of the best assets on next year's UFA board, and that a bidding war is taking place which nukes all comparables.

This trade starts to look like when the Flames traded away that Hull guy to win the cup.

Super exciting Diss. Thanks again!
There are no rumors about Wyatt being available. Literally none.
Diss's post was just that Dallas is interested in Rasmus and then speculation that wouldn't it be great if Wyatt could be acquired.
I've heard no one said he actually is on the table in any way, shape or form.
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Say we got 3rd from Chicago after flipping Robertson to them;

Would the Sharks take 3rd and 32nd to give us 2nd?
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:28 AM   #2076
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I wouldn't want to pay a huge package for Robertson, but if the cost is Andersson then you take that and run
From a value standpoint I agree, but there is an opportunity cost to such a deal. If the Flames could get a solid futures package for Andersson then passing on that would have to be weighed against acquiring Robertson. If the Flames are ready to fully embrace the present, then by all means proceed, but I can imagine this deal being Tkachuk 2.0.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:28 AM   #2077
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Sure, discussing is great, big difference is expectations
There are posters who complain about the owner, management, and individual players upwards of 10 times per day. I’m willing to be bold here and weather the disappointment of the maybe 2 fans who actually expect Johnston to be the return and are actively disappointed when it isn’t.

I think everyone should expect Johnston or Misa as part of the Andersson return. Go wild. Who cares.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:28 AM   #2078
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Dallas isn't trading Wyatt Johnston. Why is anyone even bringing his name up? He's untouchable as it gets.
I suspect on that team alone Hintz, Heiskenan and Harley are more untouchable. Maybe even Oettinger. So he is the 4th or 5th most untouchable on that team.
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Say we got 3rd from Chicago after flipping Robertson to them;

Would the Sharks take 3rd and 32nd to give us 2nd?
If they are leaning towards Frondell over Misa anyways - then why not.
Get the guy you want and add another pick.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:28 AM   #2080
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These Robertson and Wyatt rumors make me think of the Mercer + 9th for Markstrom rumors last year.
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